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[–] TxzK@lemmy.zip 105 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Can we ban all corporate lobbying? It's bribing with extra steps

[–] 520@kbin.social 33 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Lobbying in the EU is not the same as lobbying in the US. In the EU, lobbying is simply being an advocate group that is consulted whenever issues in their domain arise, with everyone understanding their partiality.

[–] bob_lemon@feddit.de 43 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

While I agree with the statement that lobbyists are not inherently evil, I will call this out as an overly optimistic statement.

We have cases like Ylva Johannson trying to enforce the use of AI detection algorithms for CSAM after being thoroughly consulted by Thorn, a company that sells such algorithms (who spent $24M on this). Meanwhile, she never met with digital rights lobbyists despite them repeatedly asking for a meeting.

[–] IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] 520@kbin.social 13 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

And she got arrested and stripped of her power because of it. In the US that's just normal business and perfectly legal.

[–] IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

She’s the one that got caught. She’s definitely not the only one in parliament accepting bribes.

[–] 520@kbin.social 2 points 8 months ago

But the point is she got caught and punished. That wouldn't happen in USA because it is totally legal there.

[–] 520@kbin.social 3 points 8 months ago

Of course. I'm not saying it's perfect, I'm just saying this is how things are supposed to work as opposed to the legalised bribery in the US.

[–] Kidplayer_666@lemm.ee 0 points 8 months ago

Then you replace the politicians instead of making it illegal for them to consult other people.

[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 8 points 8 months ago
[–] TxzK@lemmy.zip 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Oh well that sounds a lot better. In fact better than letting old, out of touch politicians who understand nothing about the issue make all the decisions.

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee -1 points 8 months ago

That's what it's supposed to be in the US, too.
It'll just take some time until the money captures them.

[–] Szymon@lemmy.ca 12 points 8 months ago

Can I order some of that over here?

[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

Sounds good.