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[-] Crow@lemmy.world 138 points 11 months ago

I’m a new Linux user since the start of the year. Windows has become so stressful to use for a pc I just want to game on. Before I was stuck using windows, but proton has changed the game so much I don’t feel like I’m missing anything now using Linux.

ChatGPT has also helped a lot by giving me all the technical support for Linux I could ever need. It’s taught me a ton while also helping me with all my problems.

[-] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 68 points 11 months ago

I had never considered this as a valid purpose for ChatGPT. Well done you for being resourceful!

[-] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 36 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

ChatGPT is a fantastic tutor. Even if it doesn't know already, you can copy a dense technical document and paste it into the chat, then ask it questions in plain english in subsequent messages

[-] Raphael@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

You can ask chatgpt pretty much anything and it answers you.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 44 points 11 months ago

Not always truthfully, but it does answer. It is quite confidently incorrect sometimes.

[-] mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 11 months ago

Imagine chatGPT beliving trolls in its training data and suggesting users to sudo rm -rf /*

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[-] Voyajer@kbin.social 8 points 11 months ago

ChatGPT has probably trained on the bulk of the Internet's Linux support threads and manages for various commands now that I think about it.

[-] cyanarchy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago

I've basically stopped using google for tech support, a computer is now teaching me how to use a computer.

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[-] boonhet@lemm.ee 25 points 11 months ago

ChatGPT helping you migrate to Linux is peak irony considering Microsoft owns 49% of OpenAI

[-] Lmaydev@programming.dev 8 points 11 months ago

Tbf they make a huge chunk of their money from azure services now.

And while windows drives certain services they are super invested in Linux.

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[-] Konlanx@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 months ago

Do you feel performance is good while using Linux to game? How is it compared to windows?

I would love to switch, the only two things keeping me away is potential performance decrease and the fact that my GoXLR doesn't work with Linux and it was way too expensive for that.

[-] ultranaut@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

I haven't personally benchmarked but so far everything I've tried in Steam has worked and performed at a level where I don't even think about it. If you're chasing the top possible FPS then it's not a good option, but performance is way better than I ever expected and definitely good enough for me.

[-] Dnn@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

This is a good summary. It really depends on the game. There even are a few examples where a Windows native game runs faster on Linux with Proton.

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[-] KanariePieter@feddit.nl 8 points 11 months ago

I have found that some games that are problematic on Windows actually run better on Linux through Proton. Performance in general can be slightly worse or slightly better depending on the game, but these days it definitely rivals Windows. That said, if you like multiplayer games; those usually do not work well on Linux, especially when they have anticheat. Also, native Linux versions are often broken, the Windows version through Proton usually works better.

Can't speak to the GoXLR, you might be able to find some info on linuxmusicians.com. I got my Tascam audio interface and my Mooer GE200 working out of the box though (with less latency than on Windows).

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[-] cows_are_underrated@feddit.de 6 points 11 months ago

You can try dual booting and see if you can get it to work. If it doesn't than you can just ditch Linux and otherwise you can ditch Windows.

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[-] oce@jlai.lu 6 points 11 months ago

This is the place to check how well your games run on Linux: https://www.protondb.com/, it shows at least 10k games running well, including recent triple As.

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[-] gridleaf@lemmy.world 38 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Linux needs better multi-monitor support. It's better than it's ever been, but it's still janky and giving black screens on tertiary screens at times.

EDIT: It's funny how the comments are all over the place. "works for me", "it's broken on KDE but works on XFCE", "it's broken on XFCE but works on KDE", etc. I think that's a good sign there are problems with multi-monitor support.

[-] FarLine99@lemm.ee 15 points 11 months ago

Plasma has really good multi monitor support since 5.27. Use latest versions and be happy 🙂

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[-] dannoffs@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 11 months ago

I haven't had any multiple monitor problems since switching to KDE that weren't actually Nvidia driver issues. My "TV" is a third monitor on a long ass HDMI cable.

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[-] ReakDuck@lemmy.ml 9 points 11 months ago

Its more of a Desktop thing rather than Linux. If you use the right Desktop like Plasma then you have no issues at all.

I really don't see any problems with Multi monitor, I actually have more issues with Windows 11 right now in terms of multiple Displays

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[-] shrugal@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

While this is probably still true, I doubt it's a big factor when talking about mass adoption.

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[-] airikr@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Indeed. I use Xfce and have to switch to Cinnamon to get a very good multi-monitor support.

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[-] RelativeArea0@lemmy.world 33 points 11 months ago

Might be, china plans to implement their "opensource" version of kylin os to ditch windows

[-] SamDuede@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago

There are literally dozens of us!

[-] kikuchiyo@lemmy.ml 25 points 11 months ago

I wonder if Steam Deck is helping with that number (but I don’t know if that many of them were sold to make that much impact).

[-] ultranaut@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

I tried to look it up and they may haveeither sold about 3 million already or are projected to have sold around that many by the end of the year.

[-] kikuchiyo@lemmy.ml 9 points 11 months ago

That’s huge number for sure! I think what Steam is doing to make playing games on Linux easier is a big factor too.

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[-] Fryboyter@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 11 months ago

according to StatCounter's data

Our tracking code is installed on more than 1.5 million sites globally.

Source: https://gs.statcounter.com/faq#methodology

Such statistics are always to be taken with a grain of salt.

There are more than 1.5 billion websites worldwide. Statcounter therefore covers only a small fraction of them. So chances are good that you as a Linux user do not use any of these 1.5 million websites that Statcounter uses to create their statistics.

Furthermore, I suspect that many Linux users use tools like uBlock Origin or Pi-Hole, so that the things that are used to track users are blocked.

Apart from that, I have several Linux installations with which I never access a website. Sometimes they have no direct connection to the Internet. Thus, they are also not recorded.

But now to the most important. 3 percent of what? Percentage numbers don't tell anything if you don't know the number of users behind them. Let's assume that there were 2.8 percent Linux users in May. In June, only 2.6 percent. Nevertheless, it is possible that there were more actual users in June if the total number of all users increased accordingly.

[-] BanthaFood@feddit.de 10 points 11 months ago

Yeah man that's how statistics work. It's not a census. The people behind statscounter make calculations and approximations based on the data they get from they trackers. I think they know that there are people with tracking-blockers. And not only on windows.

They don't just present simple numbers they get. They polish them and that's literally their job.

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[-] lemminer@lemmy.ml 19 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Next year it might go up to 10%? Privacy is a serious concern these days.

[-] rikudou@lemmings.world 23 points 11 months ago

Yeah, next year is definitely gonna be it!

[-] kouichi@lemmy.fmhy.ml 12 points 11 months ago
[-] rikudou@lemmings.world 7 points 11 months ago

On a serious note, I've started to believe it might actually happen one day, in large thanks to Valve and Steam Deck.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago

And usability, windows gets more and more complicated IMO, and not in the "fun" way Linux can be completed.

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[-] Laser@feddit.de 18 points 11 months ago

I'm loving the comments on the article.

Things that should have disappeared 30 years ago are still problems in the operating system. Not least of which is the handling of locales. I cannot transfer Excel files from my Windows machine to my Linux machine because my Windows machine uses points to denote decimals (as in most companies and homes in South Africa) while Linux does a hard-enforce of the documented standard in South Africa which is a comma for decimal. This breaks my files and I am unable to perform calculations on Excel files due to this. Ridiculous, relevant and sad.

I was previously unaware of the kernel doing such things.

People are indifferent, unknowing, fearful, or just plain lazy to learn new apps. Got to get Office, QuickBooks, Quicken, Adobe, and other major apps to run on Linux.

Most of these are fringe cases nowadays, and often used in environments where the user has no control over the OS anyways. I don't really use Office at home (for the three times per year, LibreOffice is good enough and that's what most Windows users I know run at home anyways).

Also it's not as easy as to just "get Office, QuickBooks, Quicken, Adobe, and other major apps to run on Linux". The wine project is doing miraculous work already IMHO…

While I agree with you on the advantages (performance, stability, reliability, security, customization, privacy, lightweight nature, no corporate bloatware, etc) of Linux, its rate of adoption is considerably weak and consistently weak because of various reasons and causes that your article does not mention.

"Your article doesn't mention the real reasons, which conveniently enough I won't list either."

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[-] ReakDuck@lemmy.ml 15 points 11 months ago

Nah, its just that services like Disney fixed its analytics and Linux users don't need to camoflage as Windows user to use Disneyplus /s

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[-] joel_feila@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

great now Linux is mainstream enought i have fo over to free bsd to keep my hipster status

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[-] lengsel@latte.isnot.coffee 10 points 11 months ago

I'm genuinelly not sure if it's sarcasm or delusional.

Is fair to say that long term Linux users who are very proficiant in command line know that Linux will never have any relevence on the desktop and that the year of the Linux desktop is a delusional fantasy, it's never going to happen?

At this point it's humourous when there's some new feature in whichever distributon and someone says "Year of the desktop!", it's legitimately comical, if it's said to mock all of that talk

[-] Dnn@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

I also think "year of the desktop" is a unicorn (even if it were to come, you wouldn't pin it on one year - it's a process) and I personally believe that if Windows is going to die, it will be replaced by some web-only shit instead of another local desktop-based OS.

However, Linux desktop adoption did increase quite steeply in the past few years and to a point I confidently moved also my wife's and mother's computers to Linux because it actually causes me less headache than Windows did.

So, no need to be condescending and sarcastic about it.

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[-] chicagohuman@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago

I was being sarcastic, tbh. I'm happy to see this (I use Linux everywhere), but I'm realistic. 3% doesn't look super impressive. I'm not sure where the line would be, though. 10%?

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[-] amihan@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Why do websites do this? 😮‍💨

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[-] BCsven@lemmy.ca 8 points 11 months ago

Is that including Steamdeck in that 3%, or users becoming aware of Linux based on Steamdeck? 3 percent may not seem like much but it moves the 2 percent from 1 in 50 people to close to 1 in 30 people. So more chance of bumping into a fellow user. I met up with an old work colleague just before the pandemic, we got to chatting about computers he mentioned he had dumped W10 for Mint around the same time I'd dropped W10 for OpenSUSE. Seems the Windows 10 was a tipping point for more savvy computer users who understood there could be other Operating Systems out there besides Windows or MacOS.

[-] hiyaaaaa23@kbin.social 8 points 11 months ago
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