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[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.sdf.org 26 points 1 year ago (31 children)

Okay but like what happens in Beijing when you say you're not satisfied? Also, weren't there large scale protests there not to long back?

[–] bigshot937@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Careful where you say that, you'll be sent one for four articles saying it didn't happen

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[–] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's so interesting that in a country where bitching about the government will land you in prison, people don't publicly bitch about the government

[–] robinn2@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

"Although state censorship and propaganda are widespread, our survey reveals that citizen perceptions of governmental performance respond most to real, measurable changes in individuals’ material well-being" -- Harvard study; this also shows people complaining about shit, admitting to lodging complaints/being willing to protest surrounding main issues. You had this cited to you back in another thread (where I refuted your claims on another topic, as did others), and yet you couldn't come up with a single intelligent response. Now you're saying the same bs with the same ignorant confidence, as if you have any evidence that simply disapproving of the government lands you in prison, despite the claim being disproven empirically (see above) and logically ("Idk why this is" and then "you can figure it out yourself" being your only responses; I don't believe you have an actual answer to this refutation). The only reason I recognized you is because this is almost verbatim the exact comment you made in the other thread. You have brain worms.

[–] GrimSheeper@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

On top of everything else, you've used the meme format incorrectly. Do better.

[–] Peruvian_Skies@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago

It's almost like people won't publicly criticize the government when the government imprisons and kills people who publicly criticize it and their families.

[–] kronarbob@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"How's life in China ?"

"We can't complain."

"Really, that's great. "

"No, we seriously can't !"

[–] joshcodes@programming.dev 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Huh, is that why the people of Hong Kong seemed so happy in that last bout of protests? You know, when over 1 million people took to the streets, protested and set the city on fire? Also, and just out of interest, is your government still using "prisoner's of conscience" as an organ donor pool or have they finally shut down their concentration camps?

[–] robinn2@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You know, when over 1 million people took to the streets, protested and set the city on fire?

They also set people on fire. The protests were started because they opposed an extradition bill designed to address a loophole that just allowed a man in HK to murder his pregnant wife and flee to Taiwan and avoid criminal prosecution; you shouldn't support the HK protests.

Is your government still using "prisoner's of conscience" as an organ donor pool

Glad we're taking the claims of religious zealots as established fact

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[–] facow@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also, and just out of interest, is your government still using "prisoner's of conscience" as an organ donor pool

Funny you say that

[–] joshcodes@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't try to equate a bill that allows someone to make a choice to decrease prison time, with a concentration camp where they harvest organs and hair, and "reeducate" people to believe China #1. One is dumb, the other is evil.

I get worried sometimes about my country's (Australia) invasive online privacy laws. China doesn't allow proper internet access, and if you think you have nothing to worry about, just Baidu-search "Tiananmen Square 1989" or "why did the Dalai Lama leave Taiwan". I'm sure you'll be fine...

[–] robinn2@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

"Tiananmen Square 1989"

read up

"why did the Dalai Lama leave Taiwan"

That's easy, the CPC and Tibetan masses didn't let him keep the theocracy that allowed slaves/serfs to be tortured by the feudal lordship and women to be barred from education.

[–] reversebananimals@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Don't spend your 5 mao all in one place

[–] MonsiuerPatEBrown@reddthat.com 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

or people in China could be scared to say anything bad about their scene.

[–] Arcturus@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well, that's the US fault for not thinking about that smh.

[–] original_ish_name@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

My I ask which one of these countries has freedom of speech?

[–] SquareBear@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

I'm pretty sure if you say anything in either place that isn't "allowed" you get treated equally.

[–] CyberGhost@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Definitely not the USA, if a black man says something to a police that they don’t like, they get shot in the spot.

[–] original_ish_name@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] jimmydoreisalefty@lemmus.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] jimmydoreisalefty@lemmus.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Freedom coming to China real soon, just like: Afghanistan, Yemen, Iraq, Pakistan, Somalia, Libya, Uganda, Niger, Iraq again, Syria, Libya again...

edit: again...

[–] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What? No, I don't think the US will invade China.

[–] Arcturus@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's quite unlikely, we're both making too much money off each other.
It all depends on Taiwan and the SCS regional partners now.

[–] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean even discarding that. Hypothetically, let's say the US and China declare war on each other. Neither country would be able to invade the other. I mean, the US is good at force projection, but how in the world would any nation conduct an amphibious invasion of a country like China and manage supply lines across the Pacific sufficient to support an invasion force?

It just... it doesn't make coherent sense.

[–] Arcturus@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The US could definitely do that, their logistics capabilities are immense. On top of that you have the submarine fleet, as well as assistance from regional allies. Probably not enough to take the entire country, but enough for it to capitulate through conventional means.

[–] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I mean we could land an army and send them support, just not enough to execute a conquest of China. Home field advantage is a major thing, you know

[–] atlasraven31@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Iraq needed a double dose of freedom.

[–] jimmydoreisalefty@lemmus.org 2 points 1 year ago

Always go for the double tap.

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