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[-] Floshie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 4 months ago

I think you misspelled "Please use the appropriate tool for a specific job"

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[-] NateNate60@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

This article has a few primary arguments for not using Discordโ€”

  • because it is proprietary software
  • because it has poor accessibility
  • because control over moderation and other administrative tools is ultimately in the hands of Discord rather than the community.

I know this opinion is going to be unpopular but here I go anyway.

Other than the accessibility argument, I find these arguments quite weak. Yes, Discord is proprietary software, but the reason it's used is because a lot of people are familiar with it and many people already have Discord accounts.

Although I'm a firm supporter of free software, I also believe that it's more important to use the right software for the job than to idealistically use inferior software just because it happens to be open-source. And yes, I regard most of the alternatives to Discord listed in the article to be inferior solely because they are unfamiliar to users. Sometimes, the superior choice happens to be proprietary and I don't think there's anything wrong with that. That's the way it is sometimes; you can't win every fight, as much as you'd like to.

If your goal is to foster a community of regular users and make it easy for normal users to interact with contributors, there is no choice that will hamper that goal more than using an obscure alternative software that nobody's heard of.

With respect to chat logs and administration tools... for the most part, nobody cares. Discord's tools are sufficient for most groups and few people consider the drawbacks to outweigh the other benefits.

[-] beyond@linkage.ds8.zone 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Although Iโ€™m a firm supporter of free software

Unless I'm misreading this, your argument seems to be that software freedom is irrelevant in the face of technical superiority or popularity. That's exactly the opposite of "firm support" in my view.

I'll offer a counterpoint to the "best tool for the job" thing: before git existed, Linux development relied on a proprietary VCS called Bitkeeper. Licenses for Bitkeeper were "graciously" donated for gratis by the Bitkeeper developer. Andrew Tridgell, who was not party to the Bitkeeper EULA, telneted to a Bitkeeper server and typed "help". The Bitkeeper developer, in retaliation, revoked the Linux developers' gratis license to use the proprietary "best tool for the job." This was what forced Linus to develop git, which became the most widely used VCS in the free software world. (read: Thank You, Larry McVoy by Richard Stallman)

Proprietary tools can seem to be useful in the moment but developing a dependency on them, and encouraging their use, is dangerous. Discord might seem like "the best tool for the job" until it enshittifies, just like its predecessors did, and just like its successors inevitably will. We've seen it happen often enough.

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[-] bin_bash@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

you shouldn't use discord at all .... I think nowadays it's the only app that uses plain text for all messages avoid discord

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[-] Auzy@beehaw.org 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

It's getting a bit annoying honestly how people are telling other developers how to run their projects. And often these people don't even contribute anything

I personally hate discord, but I do use slack. Using discord or slack however doesn't make your code any less open source

If people want this, they can set up something for my projects, and convince users to go. If it's successful I'd join too. Otherwise, it's really just focusing on things that dont actually matter much. I've personally been part of a project which died because we focused too much on infrastructure

[-] lemmylem@lemm.ee 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

We shouldn't be mixing FOSS projects with proprietary communication platforms. There are a lot of FOSS enthusiasts who want their setup to be entirely free and open, including Discord into the mix basically goes against the whole philosophy.

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[-] umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml 10 points 4 months ago

But I also don't want to make zillions accounts, one for each project, just for a quick question.

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[-] andreas@lemmy.korfmann.xyz 10 points 4 months ago

THIS.

omg If I have to configure another Matrix mirror bot for something I wanna self host, I swear...

[-] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 9 points 4 months ago

Don't talk to discord users, they have cooties.

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[-] joeldebruijn@lemmy.ml 9 points 4 months ago

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