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[–] kill_dash_nine@lemm.ee 14 points 2 years ago

Well I didn’t have that on my bingo card.

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Better SUSE than Oracle I guess so we will see how this works out. But in general it is good (and even in Red Hat's interest) if more people invest into the development of a stable enterprise Linux release instead of leaching off Red Hat's contributions.

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

This isnt good for Redhat. Its a hard fork that will be compatible with rhel, basically a new Centos, with SUSE marketing and branding all over it. Even the announcement mentions 5 other SUSE products for the enterprise while offering an alternative to rhel. This is a sales funnel away from Redhat enterprise products to SUSE enterprise products.

This is good for linux, not for Redhat.

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You are missing the point. More contributions to Linux helps RHEL more than copy-cat re-builds that contribute nothing.

[–] gobbling871@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

More contributions to Linux from parties other than RHEL don't help RHEL. That's literally the view they have taken since their announcement.

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

That is not what they said at all. They said pure bug-for-bug compatible rebuilds don't help RHEL. Which is undeniably true.

[–] gobbling871@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Just because they said that they don't think RHEL clones contribute to the RHEL ecosystem doesn't mean that it is entirely true. Are you new to PR speak?

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yet they consistently say that other contributions to Linux are very welcome and help RHEL, CentOS stream and everyone else. I think you have a strong case of selective memory and reading comprehension that only sees what fits into your pre-determined world-view 😜

[–] gobbling871@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes. What they say and their actions are entirely contradictory in my own warped view.

But good thing am not the only one who seems to think so 🤪 as clearly Oracle and SUSE agree with this view.

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If one thing has always been true, it is that Oracle will always chose the wrong side of history no matter what.

Be careful who your allies are 😬

[–] gobbling871@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I don't really care that much for Oracle's role in Linux but IBM's Red Hat is clearly the drunk guy here.

[–] Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

I think maybe to point out that SUSE is already the second largest enterprise Linux provider in the market. They already studied RHEL code, this would have been a gentleman's agreement broken not to outright copy each other. RHEL will easily copy SLES improvements and incorporate it into their own code, but SUSE will gain marketshare.

[–] vanderbilt@beehaw.org 5 points 2 years ago

Oh ho ho this is getting interesting. What a big fat L for RedHat. Choked CentOS and lost control of the community, cut off source access and spurred migration away from their platform. Now they not only have to contend with Oracle but SUSE too. I wonder if this will culminate in legal proceedings should RedHat try to further restrict source access.

[–] whaleross@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

I don't understand what the benefit for SUSE is of this? Wouldn't they want enterprise to use their own distros? Gaining cred from the FOSS/Linux community while undermining RHEL economically? Hmm, maybe I just answered my own question.

[–] nobloat@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Will that be bug for bug compatible with RHEL ? I am still confused by this news

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