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What is a story were the main villain actually turned out to be the good guy? (midwest.social)

submitted 9 months ago by Lanky_Pomegranate530@midwest.social to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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[–] tjhart85@kbin.social 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Interview With a Vampire ... kind of ... Lestat was by no means good to Louis, but their portrayals in the rest of the series was quite different ... I think that Anne Rice was trying to show that neither of them should be considered reliable narrators and Louis will always try to portray his situation as awfully as possible and Lestat is a narcissist and will always try to portray himself in the best light even when acknowledging what he did incorrectly.

But, when I saw that book 2 was about Lestat, I was like ... wtf ... I hate this guy, why would I want a story with him as the main character and then I read them all, lol.

[–] Dhrystone@infosec.pub 1 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Adrian Veidt, Watchmen.

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[–] Gabu@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

In a sense, Bleach - twice!

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Sousuke Aizen used deplorable methods in his attempt to achieve godhood and conquer the "empty throne of god", but was ultimately justified when the forces of Yhwach, the legitimate son of God decided to invade and lay waste to the Soul Society. Subverted yet again when it is revealed that the current "Soul King" (the lynchpin that hold reality together and the pretend-ruler of the world) is in fact an empty husk of the original God, who was assassinated by the Shinigami because they feared his powers, and Yhwach's bloody conquest was in fact an attempt at revenge. Some of his final words before dying are "I will create a world without the fear of death".

[–] TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Alex in A Clockwork Orange? 🤔

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[–] keet@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I kinda think this about the Separatists in Star Wars...Dooku aside...

[–] JowlesMcGee@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'll never stop complaining that in the second movie Dooku tells Obi-Wan that the Separatists are the good guys and that there's a sith influencing the Senate. Which would have been a cool reveal for the audience, that we're rooting for the bad guys.

But then Dooku is also a sith anyway. What a wasted opportunity.

[–] QuestioningEspecialy@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago

something something "From my perspective the Jedi are evil."
something something "You were supposed to bring balance to the force, not destroy it."

[–] MxM111@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago

Terminator. Arnold was reprogrammed.

[–] Talaraine@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The Watchmen. Everyone thought Ozymandias was the supreme evil but what he did ultimately saved billions of lives.

[–] Bonehead@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

...by killing millions. Let's not forget that part.

[–] Maeve@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The trolly problem. I guess saving billions is better than a million, unless you and loved ones are in the million.

[–] Bonehead@kbin.social 2 points 9 months ago

You assume the trolley existed to begin with. There's no guarantee that Ozymandias' predictions were right. We've been there before, in real life, and turned it back. Nothing says that wouldn't have happened in their world as well. That's why he's not actually a good guy...he took away the option to choose, and killed millions in the process.

[–] Whirlgirl9@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The Quarians vs the Geth...the Quarians did the Geth dirty

[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It’s important to remember that the Quarians are living in the shadow of a war and exodus they didn’t personally start and have had generations telling them a story of survival and heroism against an unstoppable machine juggernaut. That’s what makes their decision to cooperate all the more powerful. They’ve spent their whole lives trying to plant a tree whose shade they’ll never sit in that they always feel is at risk of being cut down again.

It’s also understandable when a significant portion of the geth just tried to kill everybody a few years prior and was abducting humans to impale on spikes that turn them into machines-monsters.

[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Braid

[–] QuestioningEspecialy@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

still ain't finished it after all these years 'cause of how hard some levels are (and i don't wanna use a video every damn time)

[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago

If it’s the purple/shadow puzzle world just look them up. Those get wonky and the game has so few it’s not like you’ll be watching a hundred YouTube videos

[–] QuestioningEspecialy@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

...so the (racist af) Tsukimichi series/manga/webnovel has this Demon race, right? Whole isekai happens because they instigate a war against the h(y)umans outta nowhere and the Goddess needs a hero.

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Well~ turns out these mofos had it comin'... and so does the Goddess. 🤷🏿‍♂️

it only sorta works for this post since the main character is quite indifferent to the ~~conflict~~ war for quite awhile
interestingly, the story primes you up for that reveal with a precursor villain of sorts

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Lime and his cohort are quite villainous until you learn what brought that fate upon the Rembrandt family 😐

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