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I would be strongly in favour of abolishing the minimum wage IF AND ONLY IF there is also a guaranteed UBI.

I would happily serve icecream for free if I got a UBI.

Janitors would need higher pay than many other jobs.

Good points, although I think the concern about the difficulty of avoiding a neo slavery caste is larger. That said, one of the arguments for UBI is that it would give the freedom to walk away from shitty employers, so the pressure would be in the opposite direction. I don't think it's necessarily that simple, since the creativity geared towards exploitation seems to be boundless.

The point is that our economy should be built upon jobs that actually provide a meaningful purpose along with a living wage, like trades, crafts or other skilled work, instead of expecting people who are trying to build a life for themselves to be subjected to soul crushing busy work to line the pockets of corporate stooges.

Stupid people don't know there are stupid people and they are them.

i have the same opinion!!

let me explain: no one should have to get the living by actual work. All should get their living from those who have enough of it. And then only when someone wants to, he/she/whatever should do some work but not for a living, only for fun. Those who "have" should be those who give. So "that" is the society that person really wants as she told us very clear (or not???) and i do share this opinion ;-) lets help her together achieving her dreamsociety by diverting her "haves" for free to those who don't "have" but need. This of course is a service for her on her request, to achieve what she stated to want and that service is for free of course, she does not have to pay for it, as we do not have to live of this service, that would be unhealthy!! everyone should only do the work he/she/whatever wants to do for free after receiving the living for free from those who have ;-)

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