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[–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee 148 points 8 months ago (3 children)

(Not you OP, you = governments)

You want to block corporate social media sites as propaganda

I want to block corporate social media sites because they’re parasites on society.

We are not the same.

[–] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 65 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Im actually quite upset that lawmakers havent used this to pass generalized privacy protection.

They have an opportunity to end mass survailance, but thats OK if its US survailance

[–] Land_Strider@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago

Our tools of social connection vs their tools of propaganda.

Now fill in the possessive pronouns with either country and change them depending on the specific tool used.

[–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee 15 points 8 months ago

Because the US government is more interested in picking who can spy on us for fun and profit, not whether anyone should.

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I want to block them because they are both

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[–] Pan_Ziemniak@midwest.social 115 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Ooh... i dont think the tankies will like this!

[–] locke@sopuli.xyz 42 points 8 months ago

Oh no anyway

[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago

Its hilarious the instance the tankies most frequent is banned in china

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[–] cloudless@feddit.uk 96 points 8 months ago (9 children)

Don't forget China blocks tiktok too.

[–] zurohki@aussie.zone 71 points 8 months ago

IIRC China tried to stir up its internet users about the US blocking Tiktok and it fell flat because it's blocked for them too.

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[–] fidodo@lemmy.world 78 points 8 months ago (22 children)

They're technically not banning tiktok, they're banning China from owning tiktok

[–] bouh@lemmy.world 20 points 8 months ago (5 children)

Which is somehow even worse : it's like only the USA is allowed to spy on everyone!

[–] duffman@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago (5 children)

They can still spy, but why would we make it easier for them?

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago (2 children)

They're functionally forcing the sale of the company to a US Firm at fire sale prices.

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[–] Filthmontane@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago (8 children)

This is primarily intended as a hostile buyout of tiktok. It has literally nothing to do with China.

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[–] cybersandwich@lemmy.world 60 points 8 months ago (4 children)
[–] frunch@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago

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[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Doesnt china have its own specific version?

[–] SMT42@lemmy.world 22 points 8 months ago (3 children)

More like, tiktok is our specific version

Douyin is what China has. That came first, then the parent company developed tiktok for release outside of china.
Then they bought Musical.ly, merged it with tiktok, and that became the modern version of the app

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[–] vegantomato@lemmy.world 48 points 8 months ago
[–] Vilian@lemmy.ca 33 points 8 months ago (1 children)

china blocked tiktok first

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[–] No_Change_Just_Money@feddit.de 19 points 8 months ago

I love these winnie pooh memes

[–] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 18 points 8 months ago

Honestly the brain dead obvious political move outside of monied interests is strong legislation to protect peoples information.

But we won’t see that

[–] manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml 18 points 8 months ago (5 children)

I hate tiktok

but all these talks about keeping children off phones is restricting the flow of information to a point that it scares me. we have Enciclopedias in our pockets ffs.

if the bar kids from easily accessing the internet, they're effectively blocking 2mil people (14-17) from instant access to information. (I did some sleep deprived math, dont @me if its off)

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 8 months ago (3 children)

As far as I know, there’s no legislation being talked about to keep kids off their phones, or even social media. This is more of a concern about China having unfettered access to user data at the drop of a hat, which I can absolutely agree is an issue. Though I don’t know that current legislation is the solution.

That said, kids absolutely do need to spend more time off their phone than they do. We’ve seen legitimate issues arise from perpetual phone use. The issue is… you can’t really legislate that. It’s parents that need to get their heads out of the sand and actually parent.

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[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago (6 children)

Well, do you want to be like China in that regard?

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[–] arin@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

Ah yes let's copy China. Progressive

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

My self hosted DNS does all of that banning too. But that's just my little quality of life thing (and whatever little that does fighting the global data overlords).

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The fine line between "I don't want to do the thing" and "I don't want you to be able to do the thing".

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[–] bufalo1973@lemmy.ml 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)

The same could be said of the US. GAFAM works for the US just like TikTok works for China. I'd like to see the reaction of the US if the EU told Meta to sell the European branch so they "can't spy on EU citizens".

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[–] FiniteBanjo 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

A FORCED SALE IS NOT A BAN.

I've said this like a thousand times and I hate repitition, but the USA as a whole has never tried to ban TikTok. Trump claims he did, it isn't allowed for military servicemembers, but it has never been banned.

[–] Jyek@lemmynsfw.com 7 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Forced sale only works if your government has any control over the organizational structure of your company which the USA does not. What they are effectively doing is forcing the American arm of Tik Tok to sell without access to it's technology which China can absolutely deny. If the sale doesn't go through, the US will ban its use. If they do sell, it will be without the technology and a company will be Tik Tok in name only having to essentially build the service from the ground up. This is an effective ban of Tik Tok regardless of the outcome.

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