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Since when is Android 10 out of support? (feddit.cl)
submitted 1 year ago by Granixo@feddit.cl to c/android@lemdro.id
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Just checked the wikipedia page today and it says that it's "Unsupported".

When did that happened, isn't it currently the most used Android version?

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[–] FutileRecipe@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (3 children)

When did that happened?

Looks like 4 months ago. https://endoflife.date/android

Isn't it currently the most used Android version?

According to this source, as of Jan 23, no. 10 is at 18.01%, which is beat by both 11 (23.15%) and 12 (25.29%). This is why you buy a phone with good support, and update your OS. They can't support everything forever. Progress happens, security changes, and they can't always backport the fixes, which also takes their talent away from evolving the OS. https://www.statista.com/statistics/921152/mobile-android-version-share-worldwide/

Personally, I get Pixels and install GrapheneOS. They get 5 years of support.

[–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is the way, although I wonder if Graphene OS utilises any of the ML capabilities the pixel devices are capable of, at least in terms of hardware

[–] mojo@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Afaik it does, but only if you use the official Google Camera aoo

[–] Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

5 years of official support, typically custom ROMs keep it alive even longer, basically until it's too hard to keep fixing broken features.

[–] FutileRecipe@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They could keep it alive past five years if they really wanted, but that goes against the goal of the project: namely security. But five years is already longer than most manufacturers do, so it's nothing to turn your nose up at.

"GrapheneOS aims to provide reasonably private and secure devices. It cannot do that once device support code like firmware, kernel and vendor code is no longer actively maintained. Even if the community was prepared to take over maintenance of the open source code and to replace the rest, firmware would present a major issue, and the community has never been active or interested enough in device support to consider attempting this. Unlike many other platforms, GrapheneOS has a much higher minimum standard than simply having devices fully functional, as they also need to provide the expected level of security."

https://grapheneos.org/faq#legacy-devices

[–] drudiperformance@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Is there anything you miss from Android while using GrapheneOS?

[–] mojo@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

I miss the Google employees spying through my camera to see how I'm doing

[–] FutileRecipe@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I don't miss Android Auto as I never used it on stock, but I get others do. I miss Google Wallet's tap-and-pay on the off chance I forget my wallet or not wanting to pull it out, but that's a convenience thing and it's not hard to pay with a physical card instead. That's really it for me, to be honest.

[–] ibroughtashrubbery@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

32 bit app support is missing on the Pixel 7, so some older apps will NOT run. Like, at all. No recourse of action other than checking a different app.

[–] Zectivi@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

The biggest thing for folks these days is there's no Android Auto support.

[–] oehm@midwest.social 32 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Awesome isn’t it? My 2 year old lenovo tablet is already no longer supported.

[–] Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's not Google's/Android's fault, it's your device's manufacturer's fault. Nothing stopping Lenovo from releasing updates for 5-10 years if they want, they just want you to believe it's obsolete and hope you'll buy a new one from them. I mean, it's a Lenovo, what did you expect?

The ultimate proof it's manufacturer laziness is that custom ROMs like LineageOS have updates out before the manufacturer does, if ever. I have a Galaxy S7 working just fine on Android 13, upgrade all the way from Android 7. Still runs smoother than the OS it came with too.

[–] bitwolf@lemmy.one 5 points 1 year ago

It could fall on the chipmakers also. I'm only familiar with Qualcomm, but they provide the kernel and blobs to manufacturers.

The work required to extend the life of an abandoned platform can grow very fast once up stream drops support.

[–] ransom@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My lenovo laptop is also unsupported(it still receives software updates, I just pushed it off a table)

[–] biscuit@lemdro.id 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My wife keeps telling me she's feeling unsupported.

[–] FutileRecipe@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Did you push her off a table, too?

[–] sic_semper_tyrannis@feddit.ch 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was able to install Lineage on my Galaxy Tab S5e and it went from I think 11 (last supported version from Samsung) to 13. It's cool how these custom operating systems can bring fresh life to a so called old device.

[–] aussiematt@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Same with my pixel 2, it was stuck back on android 11, LineageOS has given it a new lease of life.

[–] worfamerryman@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is exactly why I do not buy android. I’ve been so close to switching from iOS so many times. But I keep my devices for a long time before upgrading. I always stop pushing through when I think about support for updates from the manufacturer.

[–] nlm@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's a huge difference between brands when it comes to android. Samsung now provides four os upgrades and then security patches for a bit after that so that's 4+ years of support.

Fairphone has an even longer support time. I think it's 5 years? Maybe more, not quite sure.

[–] worfamerryman@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Doesn’t samsung only offer this on their S series? I think their mid-tier phones get less updates and less frequent security updates.

[–] nlm@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hmm I think they've started it on their A-series as well:

https://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-android-updates-1148888/

[–] worfamerryman@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the info. That was one of the big things on my list that can be checked off now.

[–] Sharpiemarker@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol this was an interesting ride from, "why don't my games work" to "turns out my phone OS is unsupported." Came across both of your threads independently.

[–] Granixo@feddit.cl 2 points 1 year ago

lmao πŸ˜†

[–] ipha@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

As far as I know, google doesn't have an official policy on how long they provide security updates, but it has pretty consistently been 3 years after release.

The only reason old versions are still in use is that most vendors release a phone, give it the bare minimum number of updates, then abandon it when next years shiny new model comes out.

[–] moose@reddthat.com 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Meanwhile, in 2023, iPhones from 2018 still get the latest iOS. And iPhones from 2015 are still getting security patches.

[–] NightOwl@lemmy.one 6 points 1 year ago

Once iOS gets side loading and Foss app stores pop up I will probably jump ship.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

13 is the latest Android version. 10's been out of support since 12. And 14 is currently being previewed.

[–] aluminium@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

"unsupported" kinda means nothing in that context. 99% of Apps still will run without issues, you can use the latest Chromium and Firefox based browsers, Play Services are all up to date - so really there is nothing to worry about.

In my opinion Android 6 is the latest really "unsupported" version. With a good chunk of Apps not working anymore and the latest Chromium browsers not working anymore either.

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