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[–] psmgx@lemmy.world 33 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Sounds like a concerted effort by a reasonably competent state actor. The +0800 timezone offset implies parts of Asia and is a small but crucial detail, esp given the commit times. In other words, China, Malaysia, Korea, etc. -- somewhere in Asia.

OTOH the author even concedes identity theft or smart attempts to discredit and point at Asia. Still, is on par for Chinese and NK actors.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 23 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It could also be the opposite, someone trying to act like one of the Asian countries. The article lists the UTC times for the commits at 12-17, which would correspond to 8AM-1PM EST or 5-10AM PDT. That also could be fudged, or it could be a relatively new US spook working primarily in the mornings. Or if it's someone in Asia, that's 8PM-1AM, which is the perfect time for an evening hacker.

It's really not clear who's behind it.

I'm guessing an independent hacker in Asia because a state actor would probably just exploit existing bugs instead of adding new ones, and they certainly wouldn't do something as obvious as "safe_fprintf -> fprintf." I'm guessing this is all one individual trying to create business for themselves.

[–] mwguy@infosec.pub 2 points 5 months ago

In other words, China, Malaysia, Korea, etc. – somewhere in Asia.

The Shadow Broker's leaks showed that state actors had whole tool suites to ensure that the product appeared like it was coming from a different location. Given that those tools have been leaked since 2016 and the concept is even older; relying on metadata like timezones, character set, etc... to make determinations about location is unreliable at best.

[–] blarth@thelemmy.club 22 points 5 months ago (2 children)

What a wild read. Definitely smells like nation state actor.

[–] Ashtefere@aussie.zone 4 points 5 months ago

Timeframes of commits line up with afternoon/evening in Moscow.

[–] Eiim@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 5 months ago

I'm not really convinced. I haven't seen anything outside the capabilities of a talented individual, and such an exploit would be worth a lot of money, so the motivation is there.

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's so disgusting to think that Jigar Kumar guy pressuring the original maintainer was Jia himself just manipulating his way into a maintainer role.

I hate people sometimes.

[–] darkpanda@lemmy.ca 8 points 5 months ago

It may not have a been a single person in the first place. “Jia” may have just been a front for multiple people or a team of people working together to facilitate the whole situation.

[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 9 points 5 months ago

this is insane that it lasted as long as it was before found. I'm glad that was quickly resolved before it hit stable.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

And there's the Open Collective Foundation closing (not Open Source Collective or Open Collective Inc), which means a bunch of projects need to deal with a bunch of paperwork.

I wish FOSS had a better community backing so a larger group of trusted devs could handle maintenance on multiple projects. Basically, any "production" Linux distribution would only ship software with stable maintenance. I'd join such a group, but as always, funding is an issue.