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Deleting a Comment (lemmy.world)
submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by kamenlady@lemmy.world to c/syncforlemmy@lemmy.world
 

I'm pretty confused about one thing.

When deleting your own comment, there always stays a placeholder in its place. I noticed this with my own and other lemmings posts.

So far so good, but i tried to reply to a deleted comment by another lemming and above the reply box was the full comment the other user deleted.

I mean the full content of the comment that was deleted.

Is this the normal behavior in Lemmy or is it Sync?

I mean, i want my deleted comments to disappear and not just hidden and for everyone available to read.

Please try it out and reply to my deleted comment in this post. Just above the reply textarea you'll see my deleted comment.

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[โ€“] freamon@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Lemmy let's you un-delete anything you've deleted, so nothing really gets nuked (it seems to be the way these things work anyway, that it's just a 'deleted' flag that's flipped between true and false).

On the one hand, it's a Lemmy problem - I can see you're comment using the API:

curl --request GET \
     --url 'https://lemmy.world/api/v3/comment?id=8986376' \
     --header 'accept: application/json'

=>
{
  "comment_view": {
    "comment": {
      "id": 8986376,
      "creator_id": 399371,
      "post_id": 13748490,
      "content": "See what i mean? I deleted this!",
      "removed": false,
      "published": "2024-03-31T09:48:22.897008Z",
      "deleted": true,
      "ap_id": "https://lemmy.world/comment/8986376",
      "local": true,
      "path": "0.8986376",
      "distinguished": false,
      "language_id": 37
     ...

But there's also a bug with Sync in that it's not checking the flag if someone try to reply.

[โ€“] ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

This seems like a massive problem. I should have the right to completely remove content I post.

[โ€“] freamon@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

If it's something you feel strongly about, then for this reason, and the usual federation reasons, it's probably better to overwrite your content with "[deleted]" or something, rather than delete it.

[โ€“] example@reddthat.com 2 points 6 months ago

fwiw, every week or so there is a scheduled task that permanently overwrites contents of deleted comments.

fyi @freamon@lemmy.world

[โ€“] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

What's the difference between removed and deleted in the response?

[โ€“] freamon@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Removed by Mod vs. Deleted by User

(you may have already seen this - my original reply went to the wrong place. Which is another Sync bug incidentally, when using the notification to reply (Android))

[โ€“] victorz@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

Ah, of course. Makes sense. Thanks, friend!

(Wow, that's a severe bug!)

[โ€“] dog@suppo.fi 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Due to the nature of Lemmy, nothing is ever truly deleted as it gets federated across multiple different instances.

It may eventually sync across most.

Deleting tends to only delete it on that instance, hence why when you reply to a deleted one, chances are you see it from your current instance's cache. Or vice versa.

[โ€“] kamenlady@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

This makes sense, i wasn't aware of the extended effects of federation.

[โ€“] freamon@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Removed by Mod vs. Deleted by User (sorry, this reply is in the wrong place)