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TL;DR

  • The European Council has ended its adoption procedure for rules related to phones with replaceable batteries.
  • By 2027, all phones released in the EU must have a battery the user can easily replace with no tools or expertise.
  • The regulation intends to introduce a circular economy for batteries.
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[–] Chadsmo@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (14 children)

I really don’t think they should be dictating how companies must design their products. My guess is Apple either pulls out of Europe , or has a phone sold only there that’s much thicker and bulky and ugly. That being said I can’t see them making that phone as goes against the company DNA. We’ll see.

[–] izzent@mastodon.social 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

@Chadsmo @reclipse Please. Please make Apple leave us the fuck alone. No one needs forced closed ecosystems and overpriced fluff.

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[–] variaatio@sopuli.xyz 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I really don’t think they should be dictating how companies must design their products.

Like say telling to automakers they must include this design feature called seat belt and this another design feature called airbag? Also EU isn't dictating anything about the design. They are giving regulation on minimum technical features. How to design within that minimal technical requirement is free for the maker to decide. Just as say there is minimum technical regulation about safety of electric appliances in general.

Again poor, poor companies being told by the regulation they can't use their favourite "design feature" of "exposed uninsulated power wirings " on their products.

Regulations have existed and will exist. Companies operate at the please of society offering them a market to operate in. Offering such things as contracts needing to be honored, people not just being allowed to steal their property, enjoying the protected relative piece of national military keeping the mongol horde away and so on. In exchange the businesses shall play by the rules society sets.

This matter was decided by the duly elected representatives of the EU citizenry (directly as the European Parliament and more indirectly the national democratically elected governments in the Council. Well except maybe governments of Hungary and Poland.... ... ...). This is the will of the European society, so this stands.

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[–] jsveiga@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

This regulation is not about apple. Smartphones from other manufacturers do exist.

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[–] alectrem@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

 Why not? There are already tons of safety and insurance regulations that Apple has to comply with, on top of that they rely on tons of open standards, and most of the amazing technological advances that make their products possible aren’t things that they invented, nor are designs that they own.

Anything that makes devices better for people is better.

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[–] NightOwl@lemmy.one 6 points 2 years ago

It will force research done into swappable battery devices that retain water protection, which will hopefully make the days of completely enclosed devices look antiquated. Plus, help with all these disposable yet expensive ewaste that phones have become.

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[–] izzent@mastodon.social 8 points 2 years ago

@reclipse Good! Stop e-waste

[–] Locutus@social.fossware.space 8 points 2 years ago

While this is great will they also make the manufacturer allow external storage up to 2tb?

[–] Molochalter@lemmynsfw.com 8 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Inb4 they make the batteries crap and proprietary.

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[–] 001100010010@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

Do you think smartphone manufacturers will still make them water resistant?

[–] shoelace@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It might be harder to pull that off without making the phone thicker in the process, but still possible.

[–] tal@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I don't really care about thickness, though I would rather the thickness be used for a larger battery than for a replaceable battery.

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[–] Never_Sm1le@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Galaxy S5 still have (IP67 iirc) water resistance with removable battery

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