How much longer until we hit the "They are all nazis and we knew it from the beginning, that is why we didn't send troops" phase of cope?
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It's a repeat of the US/UK's previous galaxy brained scheme of saving the world from Nazis- first they fund and arm the Nazis in the hopes they'll destroy the Soviets/Russians, and then after the Nazis turn out predictably rabid, they'll pat themselves on the back for helping (or in this case, not helping) to get rid of them while Russia does all the real work. And same as last time, the Anglos will probably funnel all those nasty little Nazis to Argentina or Canada, and to cushy jobs in NATO once again when this is all over, too..
I mean that'll be one way for the west to distance themselves from Ukraine.
As another distancing tactic perhaps they’ll start calling the the Ukraine again 😂
Well fuck instead of denying it, now they're just embracing it.
Hopefully history will remember this.
Given that the west is about to lose the war, there's gonna be no hiding this going forward.
"godsend for Russian propagandists" this is such a wierd thing to focus that I don't know how to criticise it properly. Just don't write puff pieces on neo-Nazis if you are concerned about that.
That's right, the fact that there are literal fascists running around isn't the problem, the real issue is that it's validating what Russia has been saying. 🙃
When the cognitive dissonance kicks in
Oh you didn’t hear? Navalny died.
🤣
Aaaand predictably full flat on face antinazi is the real nazi take:
That person has a very...loose... grasp of history. Good to see that their love for actual nazis is not hindered by any actual knowledge of related events of politics.
Beehaw as usual are not sending their best. Or maybe they are...
you can just see how they're foaming at the mouth there while mashing the keyboard
Kyrylo Budanov is mentioned as the head of Ukr intelligence org (HUR). His wiki page mentions that he was fighting in Donbas in 2014, and that he was trained by the CIA.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyrylo_Budanov
In 2014, he took part in the war in Donbas, where he was wounded several times and reportedly participated in a number of classified special military operations.
According to The New York Times, Budanov was brought to the United States for treatment at the Walter Reed National Military Medical Center after being wounded in fighting in the Donbas.
Budanov was one of the members of the elite Unit 2245 of the Ukrainian Main Intelligence Directorate trained by CIA.
CIA loves their Ukr Nazis folks.
Wishing Kapustin a very happy
So there ARE Nazis in Ukraine...
the CIA's Operation Aerodynamic made sure of that
Slavic Nazis. Hitler would be so confused.
Would he? Vlasov and his scumbags existed
Not to mention volksdeutsches.
Volkdeutsches were those deemed German by blood and culture. Something tells me that Ukrainian speaking Slavs don't fit that category.
Funnily enough they could, volksliste had 4 cathegories and actual German origins was not even necessarily needed. For example a enthusiastic nazi which lied a little could be easily signed to 1st or 2nd, someone married to a ethnic German to 3rd, and anyone really could be fit for a 4th as "racially valuable". Also don't forget that nazi racial policies were as inconsequential and malleable as needed.
They were seen as useful idiots and often given insane and suicidal tasks because they were disposable.
Does it make them any less nazi?
Yes, as they did it mainly out of survival and wanting to “please their new masters” as the vast majority came from POW and concentration camps. Few were probably true ideological Nazies, they were just scum.
You really think that they read Mein Kampf and felt that Lebensraum was a good idea? Or felt elated at being described as subhuman?
You really think that they read Mein Kampf
Doubt it, but possible. Most likely they were told an "abridged version", so to speak.
felt that Lebensraum was a good idea
Sure. How do you think Russia got so big?
felt elated at being described as subhuman?
Just like the modern nazis in Ukraine, they likely thought it wasn't about them. Blamed it on the Jews and godless commies (who were either Jews or manipulated by Jews). Here you'll say it's just supposition, but here's the thing, I live in Russia, and I had the displeasure of knowing a number of Neonazis personally. Classmates and such, you know how it is with groups you can't leave. That was basically their shtick. And those historical collaborators that weren't actual, fervent nazis, they thought they were liberating ol Vaterland from the ebil judeobolsheviks. Just look at the amount of "former" tsarist officers and aristocrats that had gone on to collaborate with the nazis.
What about Pavelic?
“Will you try to remain unbiased?” he asks. “It is a very funny position for you and your colleagues because you all have been trying hard to put us in a bad light for years. Neo-Nazis, racist, white supremacists, terrible guys, blah, blah, blah. And then the darkest hour in Ukraine’s modern day history arrives. And all of a sudden the eternal bad guys turn out to be brave, courageous, determined, stubborn and heroes. And they’re like, ‘damn, how should I write about them?’”
Kapustin thoroughly savors his notoriety. “Throughout my life, I always wanted to be the Hollywood-style bad guy. Darth Vader is my ultimate inspiration. At the age of seven, I watched Star Wars, and was like, ‘wow this guy’s so cool,’” he says.
Literal anime villain monologue.
“We are now definitely a sizable force, possessing our own arms and vehicles, possessing our own mortars, heavy machine guns and artillery. RVC is not anymore a gang. It is a regiment. We have bases. We have our recruitment system,” Kapustin says.
Make sure to vote for Joe Biden guys! I mean sure, he and his ilk have spent their entire careers helping build up Facist/Nazi death machines around the world, but surely, he will stop fascism in America. Right?
Okay… wow. Posting to the other one 
I love the Freedom of Russia Legion saga. Their cross-border raids are some of the most pathetic footage out of the war, all to hold their WoW guild flag in front of some random house. All the while they post the cringiest propaganda for seemingly no audience. They had as much influence on the Russian elections as my dog and he fucking tried.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
As a Russian militant who led eye-catching paramilitary raids into Russia from Ukrainian territory this year and last, Kyiv sees Kapustin has a role to play as an ally against President Vladimir Putin.
German authorities say Kapustin — sometimes known as Denis Nikitin — is “one of the most influential neo-Nazi activists” on the European continent, and that’s a godsend to Russian propagandists, who are seeking to whitewash their murderous invasion of Ukraine as an attempt to “de-Nazify” Kyiv.
That’s despite the fact he runs a far-right apparel line of T-shirts and caps emblazoned with white nationalist and xenophobic imagery as well as the Nazi symbol 88 — the eighth letter of the alphabet twice being a not-so-subtle code for “Heil Hitler.”
Including the notorious Rusich militia, which happily displays Nazi flashes, advocates racist ideology and has been accused of battlefield atrocities in Ukraine and Syria, and the white supremacist Russian Imperial Movement, designated a “terrorist organization” by the United States.
In 2022, Germany’s BND intelligence service said the Russian military has welcomed neo-Nazi groups in its ranks, rendering “the alleged reason for the war, the so-called de-Nazification of Ukraine, absurd.”
Kapustin’s RVC and two other Ukraine-based anti-Putin paramilitary groups — Freedom of Russia Legion and the newest formation, the Siberian Battalion — are in the news again after launching on March 12 their biggest cross-border raids of the war around Kursk and Belgorod, remaining on Russian soil and fighting for more than two weeks.
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Compares himself to Clint Eastwood and Darth Vader, then later admits he can't explain his political views. This is what happens when you don't read books (Harry Potter doesn't count).