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This looks right in my price range for my next upgrade. I want a core xy, I've been on bed slingers, so this looks good.

Important information needs no excessive words. See the picture. πŸ‘‡ So, about the early bird price for SV08... ❓ πŸ‘‰https://landing.sovol3d.com/8XS

https://twitter.com/Sovol3d/status/1777627355554381942

https://www.sovol3d.com/products/sovol-sv08-3d-printer

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[–] EmilieEvans@lemmy.ml 14 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Give credit where credit is due: Sovol donates (pays?) $2 per sold 3d-printer to the voron project and publishes their design as open source.

[–] rugburn@lemmynsfw.com 7 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I'm watching Nero3d's unboxing stream, he's saying that Sovol offered donations but the Voron team declined it. Says he's on the Voron team, but idk if that's true or not

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1DSXK5TmKE

[–] SzethFriendOfNimi@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

He is one of the Voron team members. As to the specifics of whether they declined it or if there’s some agreement I’m not sure.

[–] rugburn@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 7 months ago

Oh gotcha. I don't know enough about the project members.

[–] Everyday3671@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They did not outright declined it. They policy is not to engage wt commercial entities. Therefore, there is no contract or agreement of any kind. Nevertheless, Solvo may just voluntary donate to the project, for the PR.

[–] rugburn@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Yeah the further I got into his video, he seemed to relent a little, saying he didn't know what they (Sovol) were doing, but they (Voron team) refuse to work with / endorse anyone in a commercial kind of way. His initial statement early in that video was that they outright declined it though. Guess that's the problem with unedited livestreams

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[–] GrayBackgroundMusic@lemm.ee 5 points 7 months ago

I didn't know about the donation part, that's awesome!

[–] thorbot@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago (2 children)

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[–] EmilieEvans@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)
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[–] rambos@lemm.ee 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

This will be cheaper than any voron 2.4 kit + 3D printed parts and also fully assembled? Sounds great!

[–] IMALlama@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Looks like they're quoting a one hour build. Having built a 2.4, let me assure you a Voron build is way over one hour. I haven't dug through the BOM, but this seems like a pretty solid price point. It also gets some things right that the bamboo didn't implement (like quad z motors should the need for them arise).

[–] rugburn@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's "mostly assembled" in a flatpack. Gantry is one piece, verticals are one piece, base is assembled w/wiring complete, top is assembled. No enclosure panels yet, says they're supposed to be available "soon after launch". Just a ton of screws to put in. The frame is custom, purpose built, not the normal 2020 extrusions used in a "real" Voron build.

[–] IMALlama@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

Oh, I have no doubt it will be a significantly faster build than a Voron!

[–] B0rax@feddit.de 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Voron is not designed to be cheap. So I guess they have done quite a bit of cost optimization in the design.

We don’t know yet if these optimizations are cutting any big corners, but I guess yes.

For example: at this price point you will likely not get a thick aluminum build plate with AC heater, you will not get a high quality hotend, etc…

[–] rugburn@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 7 months ago

I only got about 40-ish minutes into Nero3D's "livestream" (it's 3 hours long), but so far one of his complaints is that it's a proprietary "Bambu type" quick change hotend, and not something that takes existing nozzles

[–] JustBrian7872@feddit.de 6 points 7 months ago

Neat! I've been looking for an CoreXY for sub 1k. Also open source and fast - very exciting! I'll wait for the reviews to see if it holds up to the promises.

[–] CrowAirbrush@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

This might actually be something i want if it's more reliable than my...meh ender 5 plus, that's pretty modded by now.

I need something that just works and is a bit smarter than mine.

[–] rugburn@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Oooh.... now the question is... build a voron, or wait for the Sv08 to become available....

[–] IMALlama@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Are you in it to tinker with the printer and go through the build or are you in it to print things? For the former, go Voron. For the later, this seems like a good option. My 2.4 build was easily 40+ hours including figuring out what to print, assembly, wiring, etc. That said, if you want to fiddle Voron is great. There are tons and tons of user mods, an active community (discord and Voron design forums), etc. You'll learn a ton building a printer from a ton of loose parts.

[–] nezbyte@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Amazing how that Saturday I set aside to build a Voron2 turned into a weeklong adventure. Then the mods, troubleshooting of mods, ERCF, and building of a Trident consumed so much more time. I guess that is just Voron Life.

[–] Damage@slrpnk.net 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It took me over 15 days to build my self-sourced V2.4.
I had crimping PTSD for a while.

[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Getting a wire harness so I didn't have to crimp all the wires myself is the main reason I ordered a kit instead of self-sourcing.

[–] Damage@slrpnk.net 1 points 6 months ago

Yeah but I already had the frame (paid by my previous employer) since the pre-manual days, so I HAD to go self sourced !

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[–] rugburn@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Tempted to do both. As much as I hated tinkering/fixing/breaking my E3V2 and the absolute bliss of my Bambu, the larger form factor, and having two of them is... going to kill my wallet.

[–] IMALlama@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I haven't needed to tinker with my Voron much, but I am a fiddler. Having a very capable baseline motivated me to put in the effort to go from a 90% printer to a 95% printer. Even without fiddling, it's been a ton better than my old i3 clone ever was in terms of quality, speed, and reliability.

I've only had one thing I had to fix in over 1,000 print hours and that was a wire break due to me running some ABS insulated wire in the cable chains.

[–] rugburn@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 7 months ago

Oh, we all need to tinker....

[–] DreadPotato@sopuli.xyz 4 points 7 months ago

Damn, that's a crazy low price for a coreXY with a 42.000cm^3 build volume

[–] Esqplorer@lemmy.zip 3 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I don't know anything about 3D printing, but I make stuff all the time. (

As background, I have done casual woodworking for ~20 years, lots of DIY, lots of tinkering with small swappable parts for making home items, I recently started using epoxies and resins to a solid effect. I'm excellent as t learning software, which is really my primary skill everything cognitive relies upon.

Would this be a good entry level device? If no, what do you recommend?

[–] DreadPotato@sopuli.xyz 6 points 7 months ago

Would this be a good entry level device?

Kind of impossible to say right now, it's not released yet. On paper it seems like a good deal, almost too good at that price point. I wouldn't buy one until I've seen some reviews.

[–] GrayBackgroundMusic@lemm.ee 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Too soon. It needs reviews. If you're looking to just get started, find a smaller, cheaper printer that's a at least 6 months old and has good reviews. Most printer companies send out review units to a bunch of youtubers, so reviews should be easy for a reputable company. Don't get a great value special from alibaba.

It's a different skillset than woodworking. It's very close to manufacturing/process-engineering. (Which I am IRL.) A smaller printer has fewer quirks and any mistakes are going to waste less material. It's also cheaper, so you don't spend a lot of money on something if you decide you don't like it.

[–] fhein@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Most printer companies send out review units to a bunch of youtubers

Unfortunately this also means that it's not easy to know which reviews you can trust. Even if some youtuber isn't paid in cash for a positive review, it's still in their interest to make the manufacturer happy so they keep getting free stuff in the future. Neither does it help that most reviews have affiliate links, so they have an additional financial incentive to convince you to buy the product.

[–] Esqplorer@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah this is why I like communities like this

[–] fhein@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Yep. I also like the 3D Printing Discord server, since many there have first hand experience with multiple printers. It's of course also interesting to hear about the experience those who only own a single printer have had, but occasionally someone claims the printer they own is a great choice for beginners despite having spent hundreds, and countless hours, on fixes and upgrade to get it in a usable state :D

[–] B0rax@feddit.de 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don’t think I would recommend a printer like this as an entry point.

Go with a Prusa (any of them are good, choose the right size for you). Or if you don’t care that much about open source, check out the bambulab P1P or the other ones from them. They are very good at multi color printing.

[–] Esqplorer@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 months ago
[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago

Hopefully this will be good. It could be the new starter printer of choice if the capabilities actually compare to the vorons.

I've already decided to do a welded frame diy for my next printer but I'll be waiting to see if I can recommend this one to friends.