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So it seems like people have started noticing Hexbear/Lemmy's "backend" (corpo term) doesn't actually enforce that you have pronouns and that you don't change your username (hexbear.net)
submitted 8 months ago by PaX@hexbear.net to c/hexbear@hexbear.net
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There are a few users on the site without pronouns now (other than "none/use name", I mean like there is no pronoun field at all)

Was considering writing a no-fun-allowed patch for this unless this is intended behavior now? I would have submitted a diff but I can't build lemmy on my system to test any changes :(

It seems like the patch would be pretty easy, there is already pronoun validation code it just needs to be applied when people try to update their username

This seems like a deviation from the path laid out for us by comrade TC69

What do you think?

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[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 79 points 8 months ago (2 children)

nothing corporate about MY backend, sailor

[–] PaX@hexbear.net 35 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

It's a UI and a server smh, this isn't a store/restaurant with a front end and a back end

Oh wait....

[–] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 34 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Welcome to Hexbear, may I take your order? Would you like to try our world famous Posadist Hot Sauce?

[–] PaX@hexbear.net 25 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Actually can I have the black mold vegan pizza? With an order of beans?

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 16 points 8 months ago (1 children)

We're all outta beans, is one really big bean okay?

[–] PaX@hexbear.net 12 points 8 months ago

That's fine, actually can you substitute beanis instead?

[–] aaro@hexbear.net 15 points 8 months ago

yes

[–] Owl@hexbear.net 25 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You ever think about how on a website the server is the back end, but at a restaurant the server is the front end?

No? Yeah me neither.

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[–] AutomatedPossum@hexbear.net 66 points 8 months ago (5 children)

Cissies not being forced to pick pronouns is pure revisionism and needs to be adressed ASAP. If people have deliberately circumvented the pronoun selection, they should also get banned.

[–] Beaver@hexbear.net 45 points 8 months ago

It's honestly kind of a defining feature of this place, and shouldn't be watered down.

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 34 points 8 months ago (2 children)

cissies choosing meme pronouns is also revisionism. immediate ban

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[–] star_wraith@hexbear.net 28 points 8 months ago (6 children)

I was there when it all happened, “revisionism” is absolutely the word for it. So many cissies trying to weasel out of just doing one little thing to support trans comrades here. 100% behind patching this.

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[–] Tabitha@hexbear.net 26 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I think a ban would be a bad idea, some users might be using alternative apps that don't present hexbear's vision clearly or other issues like they may not natively speak English or did it unintentionally. I'm very serious about the unintentional detail, there is a way to do it accidentally, I can explain how to any admins in private if necessary.

[–] PaX@hexbear.net 14 points 8 months ago

Yeahh, good point, some people might be using apps or something that don't add them to your username

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[–] PaX@hexbear.net 24 points 8 months ago

Agreed tbh

[–] Mindfury@hexbear.net 61 points 8 months ago

Uphold TC69 thought, patch it and maybe set any missing to "none/use name"

if anyone has wound up with "joke" custom ones outside the previous settings, gulag

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 48 points 8 months ago

Uphold Trans69 thought

[–] makotech222@hexbear.net 44 points 8 months ago (1 children)

sorry all, seems like one of the lemmy updates we rebased on removed our pronoun validation on the backend. ill take a look at it pretty soon, 0.19.4 is coming out soon so ill be checking this again once we rebase on top of that.

[–] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 24 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I would be for the patch, if were soliciting the opinion of someone who doesn't know anything about web dev magick

[–] PaX@hexbear.net 24 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Thankfully this is a problem easily solved with some regex

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 22 points 8 months ago (2 children)

none/use name I never liked, I'd much rather it default to @Ho_Chi_Chungus@hexbear.net idea of Gangster Spongebob

[–] WhyEssEff@hexbear.net 26 points 8 months ago (1 children)

emotenouns gangster-spongebob

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 13 points 8 months ago

Yes I approve

[–] Grownbravy@hexbear.net 19 points 8 months ago

we should be allowed custom pronouns after a lengthy vetting process and a test on "Trans Liberation"

[–] 1917isnow@lemmy.ml 21 points 8 months ago (1 children)

i'm not sure i'm following but i just wanted to say that i am a boy cat

[–] PaX@hexbear.net 19 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Based

headpat?

Same, maybe, idk, gender is weird

[–] popcornlung@hexbear.net 19 points 8 months ago

I looked for five minutes under my profile for the pronoun selection screen until I found it in settings. Not very intuitive, would like pronouns to be available at account creation. Set the default pronoun to cis/gender because it would be funny.

[–] chickentendrils@hexbear.net 18 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I know there are clients like Jerboa, are those guaranteed to support custom data fields that instances may add? Might be something one of those is doing but it'll never be enforceable for federated users as things are currently.

[–] PaX@hexbear.net 18 points 8 months ago (2 children)

In this case Hexbear's web UI actually just puts your pronouns in your username (display name is the Lemmy term). All that has to be done is enforce that there are pronouns in your selected username in the server code

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[–] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

you got any examples of users without pronoun fields?

[–] PaX@hexbear.net 20 points 8 months ago (2 children)

@DEAD_YUCKY@hexbear.net

@🐗💩🏐🏐@hexbear.net

There was another user I saw called GayBot without pronouns but they deleted their acct today...

There might be more I don't remember

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[–] El_Lightbulb@hexbear.net 11 points 8 months ago

WHY DID YOU OUT ME LIKE THIS

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