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A sex offender convicted of making more than 1,000 indecent images of children has been banned from using any “AI creating tools” for the next five years in the first known case of its kind.

Anthony Dover, 48, was ordered by a UK court “not to use, visit or access” artificial intelligence generation tools without the prior permission of police as a condition of a sexual harm prevention order imposed in February.

The ban prohibits him from using tools such as text-to-image generators, which can make lifelike pictures based on a written command, and “nudifying” websites used to make explicit “deepfakes”.

Dover, who was given a community order and £200 fine, has also been explicitly ordered not to use Stable Diffusion software, which has reportedly been exploited by paedophiles to create hyper-realistic child sexual abuse material, according to records from a sentencing hearing at Poole magistrates court.

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[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 60 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

As a UK citizen, I'm ashamed of my government.

I am firmly against child abusers, but AI images don't harm anyone and are a safe and harmless way for pedophiles to fulfil their urges, which they cannot control.

[–] Tippon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Where does the training data come from to create indecent images of children?

[–] Dran_Arcana@lemmy.world 51 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (48 children)

It doesn't need csam data for training, it just needs to know what a boob looks like, and what a child looks like. I run some sdxl-based models at home and I've observed it can be difficult to avoid more often than you'd think. There are keywords in porn that blend the lines across datasets ("teen", "petite", "young", "small" etc). The word "girl" in particular I've found that if you add that to basically any porn prompt gives you a small chance of inadvertently creating the undesirable. You have to be really careful and use words like "woman", "adult", etc instead to convince your image model not to make things that look like children. If you've ever wondered why internet-based porn generators are on super heavy guardrails, this is why.

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[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 28 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The whole point of diffusion models is that you can generate new concepts using training data. Models trained on any nsfw images can combine those concepts with any of its non-nsfw concepts. Of course, that's not to say there isn't CSAM in any training data, because there objectively has been in the past, but there doesn't need to be any to generate it.

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[–] Turun@feddit.de 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Ai is able to fill in the last field in a table like "Old / young" vs "Clothed / naked" when given three of the four fields.

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[–] randomaside@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 7 months ago

Please reiterate your statement but instead using the "goose chase meme" format.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 58 points 7 months ago (4 children)

How could they possibly enforce this ban?

[–] treefrog@lemm.ee 33 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

What do you mean? Like how would they catch him?

In the States parole/probation means you lose most of your civil liberties. In other words, if this was the U.S. a PO would check his phone and possibly his computer. Possibly even pull ISP records depending on how bad they want to catch you/how full of shit they think you are.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago (8 children)

How will they even know he's doing it? It doesn't say they're monitoring his internet connection. And even if they were monitoring his internet connection, he could go to some public wifi hotspot and sit in a car and do it.

[–] treefrog@lemm.ee 13 points 7 months ago (7 children)

I edited my comment. You're too quick.

But yeah, he could get around it. But, he's an addict. He's going to want that porn other places then his car and make mistakes. If he's tech savvy, he can probably stay one step ahead of his probation agent (assuming he has one). If he's not, he'll slip up because he's addicted, and that's how people get caught.

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[–] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 6 points 7 months ago

Maybe they think he is capable of self enforcing the ruling?

Or that they want the option of gaoling him if they so much as get a hint he’s using one of the services in any capacity.

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[–] Allero 37 points 6 months ago (45 children)

UK legislators have a long history of taking actions not informed by science or reason but rather the popular, often hysteric, opinion.

This case is yet another attempt at tightening screws where they shouldn't be.

AI imagery was produced by Stable Diffusion, the model that, for all we know, did not take real CSAM as inputs and caused no harm to actual children. At the same time, such images are important at discouraging the consumption of real CSAM, with very real children being traumatized.

By banning AI imagery production using safe models, legislators leave no legal way for pedophiles to get something by the harmless means, directing many to the harmful ways as equally illegal, while also prosecuting those who did no harm.

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[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago

Why didn't he get banned from using the internet?

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago (15 children)

Is he extorting actual kids or just having a computer generate fap material? The difference decides whether or not I give a damn.

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[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

I definitely can't let you do that, Hal.

[–] prosp3kt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 6 months ago (4 children)

How you will enforce this kind of politics? I just buy a VPN, use proxychains or annonsurf, what you gonna do? put a police to live in the same room as I live?

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