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[–] drdiddlybadger@pawb.social 132 points 6 months ago (2 children)

If you didn't want to get arrested by the ICC maybe you shouldn't have committed so many fucking crimes you assholes.

[–] joekar1990@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)

He’s just trying to complete that Geneva checklist… /sarcasm

[–] drdiddlybadger@pawb.social 8 points 6 months ago

Geneva convention genocide ending speed run

[–] frezik@midwest.social 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] sebinspace@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Knew what this was before I even opened it. God, what a movie

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 88 points 6 months ago

Issue them, ICC.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 74 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Neither Israel nor the United States recognize the court's jurisdiction, though any warrants would put Israeli officials at risk of arrest in other countries, including much of Europe.

That’s a good look for USA. /s

Once again, we are shamefully shamed by our leaders.

[–] Glytch@lemmy.world 31 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It gets better: check out The Hague Invasion Act.

Long story short congress has given blanket authority to any US president to rescue any American or allied personnel from ICC imprisonment by any means necessary.

Netanyahu could qualify as allied personnel.

The US could invade the Netherlands to free Netanyahu from the ICC without any sort of debate.

[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 16 points 6 months ago

Countries with good intentions don’t shield themselves from accountability.

America is a terrorist state.

[–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 10 points 6 months ago

And NATO would be obligated to defend it, if the Netherlands asks for aid. Could get interesting.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 20 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The story behind it is that Clinton supported it, but it was very close to the end of his term and decided that the next Administration should take it up. Gore 100% would have gone ahead with it. We didn't get Gore.

IMO, there are other fundamental issues with the ICC, and they won't all be fixed by the US signing on. That said, by all means, charge Netanyahu. He deserves it.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

It's been this way for decades. Some insecure people can't imagine how the US could ever form part of the international community and instead want to be able to get away with everything all the time.

[–] Altofaltception@lemmy.world 74 points 6 months ago

Oh so Israel knows Netanyahu is committing war crimes.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 67 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Is it because they're criminals? Do you think?

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago

What? No. This is a perfectly normal and rational fear. I even keep a can of ICC-Away in my kitchen.

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

If that were the case with the ICC there's also a huge list of people they should have arrested by now

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 40 points 6 months ago

Bibi sowing: Haha fuck yeah!!! Yes!!

Bibi reaping: Well this fucking sucks. What the fuck.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 29 points 6 months ago

Oh no! Maybe they should stop executing noncombtants and aid workers.

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 26 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Bibi deserves much, much worse than a cell in the Hague.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago (2 children)
[–] DeadWorld@lemm.ee 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)
[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 6 months ago

Panic! In the Hague

[–] Pan_Ziemniak@midwest.social 3 points 6 months ago

A moose in The Hague....

May your imagination run wild!

[–] twig@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 6 months ago

I can only hope they get the Nuremberg treatment.

[–] Cuttlefish1111@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It’s conflicting. I would like to see immediate lethal punishment but also want him to suffer in jail

[–] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Ideally I’d like him to rot in jail, and witness better leaders unfuck what he’s done to Israel and the region over the years. Forced to witness his ‘legacy’ dismissed as wrong and torn down.

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[–] NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth 9 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Like I get that 80 years ago something horrible happened, but these guys just keep on and on about how bad t is the only Jewish state in the world.

Why does that matter? Why is protecting an ethnostate so important?

[–] blazera@lemmy.world 17 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I think the biggest factor is, even though we're talking about Jewish people, its also in christian dogma that jewish people inherit that land. So after ww2 when largely christian nations were restructuring the area, they made sure the jews get their holy land. At the expense of palestinians that werent even involved in the war.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

And they could also get Jews out of Europe by giving them the promised land. Very convenient.

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 14 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Because the Holocaust happened and although Jewish people weren't the only demographic to be murdered by nazis, they did face the brunt of it. Add to that a 2000 yr diaspora and you can see why they would like a homeland.

The problem is Palestinian people lived on that land for 2000 years so they have a right to it as well.

Imo the best thing to do is divide Israel in half and give Jewish and Palestinian equal portions. But we're a long way from that happening, if ever.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They are hardly the only diaspora that's been through traumatic events. Ethnostates always end up this way.

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

And we shouldn't be forcing anyone out to make new ethnostates. It's the worst form of colonialism.

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Where did I say force anyone out?

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[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

The thing I've seen bandied about is a UN-administrated state combining both territories, policed by UN forces until a proper bipartisan government consisting of Israelis AND Palestinians is elected, ready, and able to take control - and even then subject to "hey we'll come back if things get bad again".

[–] muse@kbin.social 9 points 6 months ago

"Hahaha nooo don't make me find out after fucking around haha lol"

[–] thefluffiest@feddit.nl 8 points 6 months ago

Lock him up!

[–] Phanatik@kbin.social 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

So... who is going to be marching into Israel to make the arrest?

[–] holycrap@lemm.ee 17 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That's not how it works. If a warrant is issued then any country that is a signatory is obligated to arrest him if he sets foot in their territory.

[–] Phanatik@kbin.social 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Ah gotcha so he just never leaves Israel or no one ever acts on the arrest warrant.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 17 points 6 months ago

The ICC issuing an arrest warrant would also erode the legitimacy of the administration internationally. A head of state that can’t visit other heads of states tends to become a lame duck, especially when they’re not an autocrat.

[–] Uranium3006@kbin.social 2 points 6 months ago

Israeli officials are coveted by the Hague invasion act, so this could get fun. I say still try and make Biden show his whole ass

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