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[–] BaldProphet@kbin.social 11 points 6 months ago

It's disappointing that the effects of discrimination against childless men are downplayed in the article, which focuses on discrimination against mothers.

[–] cosmic_cowboy@reddthat.com 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

One topic that I believe is related is the decision not to have children.

My wife attempted to get her tubes tied, and every doctor turned her down because she was too young.

Despite being the same age, the first doctor I spoke to agreed to a vasectomy without Amy pushback.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago

This is a really weird issue that I really don't understand how it's so persistent. Even younger women doctors seem reluctant to sterilize women without at least checking if a husband/so is ok with it.

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

…the first doctor I spoke to agreed to a vasectomy without Amy pushback.

Everyone knows that women named Amy really want babies and they pushback hard if their SO doesn’t want one.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 2 points 6 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Even in the age of “Lean In,” when women with children run Fortune 500 companies and head the Federal Reserve, traditional notions about fathers as breadwinners and mothers as caregivers remain deeply ingrained.

This bias is most extreme for the parents who can least afford it, according to new data from Michelle Budig, a sociology professor at the University of Massachusetts, Amherst, who has studied the parenthood pay gap for 15 years.

“A lot of these effects really are very much due to a cultural bias against mothers,” said Shelley J. Correll, a sociology professor at Stanford University and director of the school’s Clayman Institute for Gender Research.

The data could be boiled down to hardheaded career advice: Men should festoon their desks with baby photos and add PTA membership to their résumés, and women should do the opposite.

In Ms. Budig’s previous work, she has found that two policies shrink the motherhood penalty: publicly funded, high-quality child care for babies and toddlers, and moderate-length paid parental leave.

For instance, in countries that promote more traditional gender roles, like Germany, where new mothers are expected to take more than a year off work, the motherhood penalty is very high.


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