Allero

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[–] Allero -3 points 1 month ago

Virtue signaling and spreading hate as a way to distance yourself has truly never led to something good.

And with the direction US and EU are taking recently, I have more sad reasons to believe your words are true. Let's hope they're not.

Thanks for your input.

[–] Allero 3 points 1 month ago (5 children)

True, but it seems like they were mostly united by just having Russian e-mail domains. Some also worked on support for Baikal CPUs, but they are essentially a failed product now.

Also, the personal response of Linus is a clear F*** you to Russians in particular, so he kinda cleared this out, at least on the level of "I don't give a damn about Russians whatsoever, they're evil"

[–] Allero 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yeah, arguing that everyone disagreeing is a paid Russian troll is a cherry on top.

[–] Allero 2 points 1 month ago

Agreed with you!

[–] Allero -5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (71 children)

So, basically it's enough to say "Fuck Russia, Fuck Russians" here and it gains you massive support.

Seriously?

First, how does this fuck Russia the state?

Second, what everyday Russians have to do with it? What justifies sneaking in hate messages to a diverse ethnic group with no single ideology?

Saying "Fuck Russians" is about the same as "Fuck Jews" because Israel has done bad things. This is not okay.

[–] Allero 46 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (27 children)

The central project of open-source community closes doors to people based on nationality, and everyone is cheering...

Why? You seriously miss the implications of breaking the very basic principles of open source? You are ready to forgive literally anything if it is claimed to target Russia or Russians in any way?

For those of you who say about backdoors:

  • US is known to create the most complicated spy networks with myriads of backdoors. Where are the bans of the US maintainers?
  • Israel is a literal powerhouse of state-sanctioned spying software - Pegasus, as well as many less renowned programs, was created here. Any bans, anyone?
  • China is known for invasive software. Maybe ban them all too?

The only reasonable way to avoid backdoors is to meticulously check the submitted code. Threat actors can be anywhere - and Russia is not some unique threat location, nor was it banned with that justification - just "compliance requirements".

This is politics permeating the sacred place we all had. This is a giant threat to the community, and the way Linus framed it in his message is even more terrifying. This was never meant to happen.

[–] Allero 17 points 1 month ago
[–] Allero 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It is. Not to be confused with LCD.

[–] Allero 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

Comments do drastically differ between .ml and .world. On .ml, you'll see more sympathy towards Russia and China.

But the issue on hand is way bigger than that. It's importance is not in Russia getting sanctioned somewhere else - it's in the destruction of openness and trust in the open-source community, which has far more reaching consequences. What has been done is pretty unprecedented - and dangerous.

And I'm surprised other Linux communities are silent on the matter.

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