completely 100% irrelevant to everything, because that would never happen.
Amorphous
joined 5 years ago
Taking someone's trash out for them is not a massive decision about their life the way forcing someone to exist for (ideally) 80 years or so is.
Furthermore, it is an action almost certain not to cause any suffering whatsoever, while the act of creating a child is 100% certain to cause suffering to that child.
I think that it is fundamentally wrong to make a massive decision for another person without any input or consent from them. That is what it is to create a child. You are just deciding for another person that they must now accept the responsibilities of existing for the next 80 years or so, and that comes with the added detail that you'll make them feel bad about it if they want to opt out at any point before that.
It's just wrong. Fundamentally, without any context about my own feelings on raising children, it is the morally wrong thing to do to another person. If you want to raise kids, go adopt a kid.
"authoritarianism" isnt a real thing to begin with, thats where your question fails
ok that was actually pretty good lmao
mutilating your child's genitals because you couldn't be bothered to inform yourself about it is also abuse
imagine making this argument for literally any other form of abuse. hell, even any other form of mutilation. oh, yeah, i cut off the baby's earlobes because, uhh ... i get cysts in mine sometimes and thats kinda scary. earlobes must be bad.
and yes, im being hostile. we should be hostile toward INFANT GENITAL MUTILATION and those who support it.
mutilating your child's genitals without anesthetic for cosmetic reasons is abuse. if you disagree with that you're fucking wrong.
i would hope people would be "a little extreme" about widespread, normalized infant genital mutilation
you are the weird one for not being upset about it
Abuse is still abuse even if it's normal and even if you don't think it's abuse.
In the UK, it seems like "trotskyist" is used pretty much the same way as "antifa" is here in the US. It's a nebulous concept of some kind of sinister group of bad people who do bad things, and if anything bad happens, well, what do you know, looks like they were to blame.
can we clear one thing up real quick? they did not kill otto warmbier. his parents spread this absurd story about all kinds of brutal torture or whatever, but the doctors consistently said that there was absolutely no evidence of any sort of physical abuse. no abnormal bruising or evidence of broken bones, no damage to teeth, no damage to skin. etc
no one is quite sure exactly what caused his brain injury, but as far as I can tell from the words of the physicians, there is no evidence whatsoever that he was beaten, tortured, or abused in any form.
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it still does boil down to selfishness, even if they dont see it that way. at the end of the day, if they thought about it at all, they decided that their desire to procreate is more valuable than the autonomy of the child they would be creating that way . thats just selfish however you look at it
i dont hate people for having kids of course. in the grand scheme of bad things you can do, it's pretty mild. it's still on the list of bad things you can do, though