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if people could just make things and sell them without having to go through a capitalist...

There are two options? Rent it for profit or leave it empty?

Leftists are aware of Goergism. They don't generally take it seriously because it's just 'one weird trick' reformism that's trying to save capitalism from itself. It doesn't change what capitalism is or the historical process it drives, it'll get clawed back immediately just like every other social democratic reform, and it would cause a full on capital revolt if you somehow magic lamp'ed it into practice such that you might as well just do the real revolution and actually overthrow capitalism for the same amount of effort.

but the ideology is so centrist and common sense

I really just commented as an excuse to lol at this line.

“The perfect is the enemy of the good.”

Murdering black people for advocating their civil rights is good huh?

Cops receiving the wrong training is an entirely separate issue from the cost of improved training.

No it isn't. You're hiding behind hollow rhetoric and ignoring reality entirely. Yes. In your fucking mind palace it's TECHNICALLY POSSIBLE to train police to not be bad. But you're ignoring all present conditions and all of history. I'm not going to apologize for you feeling stupid or offended at being called stupid. You're stupid.

the fact that cops will sometimes shut off their cams does not negate the times that they don’t turn off the cams and it allows victims to seek justice

Mind palace. Completely ignoring how the world works in favor of how the argument works in a vacuum.

The fact that chokes are not reduced to zero by chokehold bans does not negate that it reduces the number of chokes used. In the same way

Petulance. Police killings are up, not down. The direction is not towards zero. You're either a fascist or a useful idiot. It literally does not matter which. I call you a fascist.

I'm sorry but you're extremely too credulous and unthinking.

I already explained why and how bans on chokeholds are superficial. Are your senses so dull that you didn't notice or are you being deliberately dishonest and lazy by not addressing it?

Body cams are even more glaring an example. It's extremely fucking common knowledge that they turn them off whenever they want. Do you think you're being strategic by ignoring that fact? Because the effect in reality is it makes you sound like an idiot. Your entire premise is undermined.

You just straight up have no idea what's happening in the world around you.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/08/warrior-cop-class-dave-grossman-killology.html

"More training costs money"

Come back to your own comment and read it again. Do you understand why it's a stupid point?

You don't have to suppress smallpox. It's nowhere to be found!

just because you came into a conversation in the middle and injected something no one else was saying doesn't mean the thing you injected became the topic of discussion

the world is not your narcissistic fantasy

nazi.world strikes again

it's not supposed to be funny it's explicitly calling you out

You're wrong and your argument was so stupid that there's no defending it. That's why you're play acting a fool and avoiding the criticism of it.

If it's not homophobic to attack a politician being insufficiently bloodthirsty towards another country, why do you never see this attack deployed against women in the same way?

Answer or don't. But please fuck off if you don't.

You're too easily impressed with the most superficial bullshit possible. The difference you highlighted is purely symbolic on both sides. As if cops are restrained by the law in the first place. Both parties have the exact same policy on policing and your 'good guys' are almost exclusively the ones in charge of the cities that actually run those police departments. All they do is give them more funding. And to confound people like you they engage in 'liberal box checking' where they 'do something' that changes absolutely nothing structurally. And then you turn around and defend these murderers like they're the good guys. You're a boob.

I honestly can't tell if you're just too prideful to admit you're wrong. I don't believe any present minded, awake person could be naive to the concept of a discovery algorithm. So you setting the bar at 'you can literally find it if you know what you're looking for and try' for government control of thought and discourse seems genuinely in bad faith.