CicadaSpectre

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[–] CicadaSpectre@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 1 year ago

Exactly. They've been screeching about this decades before Trump, insisting the US is some Christian fascist paradise being besieged by an international cabal of communists. Every Trumpite politician I see yammers on about "the left" in every negative thing that happens. Trump didn't need to get shot at for them to start marching with torches at Charlottesville, or to start attacking city infrastructure to target minorities, or to push state governments and courts to adopt more and more aggressive reactionary legislation. Yes, this will be their rallying cry, their "proof", but with how much pressure reactionaries have been putting on citizens, it was only a matter of time until someone pushed back and gave them the excuse they wanted.

[–] CicadaSpectre@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not disagreeing with you, but they would eventually turn to violence inevitably. Either through "legal" means as reactionaries restructure the government under Trump and his supporters, or through continued terrorism in areas or periods where he isn't in power. It doesn't matter if he'd gotten assassinated or if there had never been an attempt. His fanatics are convinced they're in a holy war, and they look for any shared of evidence - real or imagined - to support that bias.

I'd wager you're more annoyed at the hypocrisy of liberals wanting Trump dead than them simply wanting him dead, because I can guarantee his fash followers are going to do violence and terror regardless of any attempt, its success, or its failure.

[–] CicadaSpectre@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately, I just heard the word going around that someone in the crowd died, so it does definitely appear at the very least real shots were going into the crowd. None of that has been verified, as far as I can tell, but I'm sure we'll get all the details by tomorrow if not in the next few hours. It's not looking good either way, sadly. You're right that the right wing is going to use this for all the mileage it'll get, stunt or not.

[–] CicadaSpectre@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My only counter is that Trump and his supporters already believe Biden and Dems are in a cabal with communists. If it was some anarchist, he'd still blame Biden as equally; if it were a Dem, he'd blame communists as equally. To Trump and his cronies, it's all the same. No matter who wins, or who fired those shots, they'll squeeze harder on us.

[–] CicadaSpectre@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I ain't busting out the tinfoil hat just yet, because it's entirely possible with all the fearmongering of making Trump the antithesis of freedom, that some unwell person might think they're saving the world by attacking him, but so much of it feels... off. I can't help but be suspicious. That said, I'll withhold any final conclusions until experts can investigate and weigh in.

[–] CicadaSpectre@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 year ago

I'd also add that his followers absolutely would not stop following him if it turned out he lied here. He could spit in their faces and they would applaud. He has nothing to lose from doing a stunt like this, in fact they might find it endearing.

[–] CicadaSpectre@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (18 children)

Who the hell benefits from this other than his fanatics? I wouldn't be surprised if this turned out to be staged, and I'd be even less surprised if his supporters didn't care it wasn't real.

EDIT: I concede it was almost certainly a real attack, and probably by someone convinced they could save the country by killing him. I just wasn't going to be surprised if it turned out to be staged. I wish it had been; this is going to get the fanatics frothing at the mouth. They're already saying he was saved by God to stop the "leftists".

[–] CicadaSpectre@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reminds me of Prohibition and how violent it got all because Americans couldn't get booze. To this day, I don't doubt there'd be an uprising if they ever tried that again here. We're dependent on bread and circuses, and we project like no other.

[–] CicadaSpectre@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 1 year ago

Stuff like this wouldn't bother me if it wasn't for the fact states (like mine) are lowering the working age to 14, and it's all my damn students talked about when I taught middle school - how excited they were to make money. If we still had some semblance of child labor laws, then something like this would be pretty benign; I wanted to work fast food when I was a kid, and plenty of kids like to pretend they're store clerks or chefs. Not surprised it's Chik Fil A.

[–] CicadaSpectre@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 year ago

I'm trying to get into factory work. I'm looking at going to tech school and getting a job as a technician. Everything else has kind of fallen through.

[–] CicadaSpectre@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago

They've got some demons.

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