Cottenlai_Zhou

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[–] Cottenlai_Zhou@hexbear.net 1 points 7 months ago

In the book there are factions within the Trisolarans; pacifists warn Ye not to reply buy she does anyways which allows the imperialist Trisolarans to invade.

[–] Cottenlai_Zhou@hexbear.net 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I thought he was minister for playground-equipment control?

[–] Cottenlai_Zhou@hexbear.net 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

And another thing - the trisolarans are fucked.

If Liu had written the Trisolans too similar to the US the audience would've called them unrealistically evil lol

[–] Cottenlai_Zhou@hexbear.net 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Dark Forest doesn't say communication is impossible, it says communication is dangerous. Dark Forest doesn't imply that every civilization is evil and genocidal, just that the risk of exposing yourself to a potentially dangerous civilization is too great when the cost is existential.

Anthropologists and sociologists and linguists study humans on earth, not unknowable aliens in the vastness of space, I don't see how their expertise is relevant. Again, Dark Forest rests heavily on (a) existential threats, and (b) acting effectively blind. These aren't situations we face often or really ever in human history.

[–] Cottenlai_Zhou@hexbear.net 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

No, it assumes that at least one in many has a destructive response. I think the assumption is that most will hide, but the risk of a single civilisation being aggressive forces everyone to assume that anyone they meet is aggressive.

[–] Cottenlai_Zhou@hexbear.net 15 points 7 months ago

How is it that slow? I read the whole book in less time than that.

[–] Cottenlai_Zhou@hexbear.net 16 points 7 months ago (12 children)

The key is that it's a clash of civilisations working in almost complete ignorance of one another. Any destructive tendency that emerges is based purely on survival, not ideology of cultural or ethnic superiority. You destroy anything that raises its head because you can't know whether or not it poses an existential threat.

It's not nice, but it's also not fascistic.

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