OK so reverse order timeline of events like this that I'm aware of

• Laura Bailey being harassed for something a character she voiced in The Last of Us Part 2 did
• Anna Gunn being harassed because people misguidedly and misogynistically didn't like Skyler White (taking this back to 2008)
• Ahmed Best and the kid who played young Anakin being harassed by Star Wars fans after the Phantom Menace came out, taking us back to 1999. You could argue that these two weren't about the character's actions but rather the quality of the performances/product so its a bit difference but its still the same overall problem.
• I just happened to get curious about what TV Tropes had to say about All in the Family because my roomate was watching it. By weird coincidence, because I had commented about the first three when this news was posted in a discord server already, I learned it goes back to the 70s because an actor who appears in one episode and does something incredibly evil got hate mail over it. So yeah, this shit has been going on forever

But like. WHAT the fuck is going on with that. What is going on in brains that can't separate actor from character? Is it just needing an outlet.

I think there's some discussion to be had about this shit getting worse because of increased atomization, COVID, social media giving people easy access to celebrities, and a more media obsessed population in general. But it apparently goes all the way back to All in the Family so what is going on?

And I don't think that its a minor problem either! Ahmed Best and the small child that played Anakin have shared some pretty harrowing stuff. And like, this was a reality show but I've discussed before how upset the story of Hana Kimura is to me as a fan (if you look her up, suicide cw).

My best guess is that people with very little emotional intelligence have emotions over the media they consume and need to let it out on someone as an outlet? Combined with just, poor education leading to poor media literacy?

But yeah this has always confused me lmao. I truly wish to understand the confusing actions of humans.

yay or nay?

what say you?

The Internet has ruined my enjoyment of movies and TV shows : nosurf

Anyone else enjoying the modernized messy bitch drama?

@@@@This comes from above: it's strongly recommended to use a VPN for cytube. @@@@ There was a thread recently about vpns and a few you should explicitly avoid.

The visual cuisine for this Monday night is the continuation of The Boys season 4 followed by the Driver. The Boys is a show based off of a comic that satirized mainstream superhero comics, it has frequent shock/gross-out humor with bombastic, graphic violence. The first few minutes of the first episode of season 1 will give you a general idea of what the show is about.

The Driver is a classic car chase movie by director Walter Hill about a detective focusing his efforts on catching an exceptionally good getaway driver.

8 pm est

content warnings:

episode 4 specific:

Boys:

https://www.doesthedogdie.com/media/720923

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1190634/parentalguide

• Frequent graphic violence and excessive gore
• Child abuse
• Multiple mentions of SA, a primary character was assaulted at work in season 1 and the abuser is a recurring character
• Stalking
• Domestic violence
• Gaslighting
• Drugs, alcohol, addiction, and overdose
• Needles
• Death of animals and animal abuse
• A character is implied to have been a pedophile
• Explicit nudity
• Sex
• Objectification of women
• Racism
• Homophobia
• Transphobia
• Slurs
• Body dysmorphia
• Nazi imagery, a superhero was outed as an actual nazi and has supporters in the show
• Antisemitism
• There is a character in this season that spouts bigoted conspiracy theories
• Suicide
• Depictions of ptsd
• Anxiety attacks
• Body horror
• Torture
• Death
• Car crashes
• Gun violence
• Masturbation

Driver:

• Car crashes
• Violence
• Gun violence
• Profanity
• Alcohol

https://tankie.tube/w/j1bbKbSkYSg8rcUBihhxBm - boys

https://tankie.tube/w/h7cPFdP7gmbYWevgoytBAs - the driver

8 pm est

huh maybe it's called Beetlejuice Beetlejuice because it's twice as long as the original

for the love of god why does every movie have to be 2½ hours

watching this movie from 1995 right now, it's pretty good. Iconic, even. CW: everything.

IMPORTANT NOTE: please use a VPN whenever visiting Hextube, or anywhere else on the internet, for that matter. Protect your privacy.

For this Sunday Kino Night, first up is The Bad and the Beautiful (1952), a classic melodrama best described as Citizen Kane (1941) meets Sunset Blvd. (1950). A ruthless Holly producer (played by Kirk Douglas) manipulates and connives his way to the top of the Hollywood hierarchy, alienating his friends and family along the way. The film recounts his rise in flashback form from the perspectives of the people he used. Will karma come back to bite his sleazy ass? I guess we’ll have to watch to find out. Director is Vincente Minnelli; we have not watched any of his films on Hextube yet, but he is best-known for the musicals An American in Paris (1951) and Meet Me in St. Louis (1944). This one is considered perhaps his magnum opus.

Next is My Friends (1975), a slapstick comedy from Italian maestro Mario Monicelli, whose labor drama The Organizer (1963) and heist farce Big Deal on Madonna Street (1958) we previously watched. A group of four middle-aged manchildren don’t want to grow up, and so they organize a bunch of immature, silly pranks in a desperate attempt to prolong their youth. Wacky antics ensue. This was a huge hit In Italy at the time, spawning two sequels. It is a boomer comedy classic there, along the lines of, oh, Blazing Saddles (1974) or Caddyshack (1980) in the US. Let’s give it a whirl.

We’ll start at 8PM EST on Hextube, right here:

https://live.hexbear.net/c/movies

Be there, comrades!

Letterboxd:

• The Bad and the Beautiful: https://letterboxd.com/film/the-bad-and-the-beautiful/
• My Friends: https://letterboxd.com/film/my-friends-1975/

Doesthedogdie.com links:

• The Bad and the Beautiful: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0044391/parentalguide?ref_=tt_stry_pg
• My Friends: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072637/parentalguide/?ref_=tt_ql_stry_4

CWs for The Bad and the Beautiful:

• Kissing.
• Smoking.
• Alcohol.
• Drunkenness.

CWs for My Friends:

• Objectification of female characters.
• Misogyny.
• Nudity.
• References to sex.
• Slapstick violence.
• Profanity.
• Sad ending.

Links to movies:

• The Bad and the Beautiful: https://tankie.tube/w/cznoLvmhqRUuQnyP7FrV6E
• My Friends: https://tankie.tube/w/kLyfDTqCxGRi1BQLUazv1n

All I will say is it's a great animated comedy-drama with a bittersweet ending.

The trailer I posted doesn't really capture the vibe of the movie as well as the other one I saw, but it spoils less of it.

As we all know, by the year 2360, Earth had reached a level of development in which commerce as we know it had fundamentally changed. It was a post-scarcity paradise. Individuals instead challenged themselves to purposes that benefited others.

So my question to my comrades is this: what sort of Soviet-style awards would our crew have? Obviously Picard would have a Hero of the Federation or two. And Dr. Crusher would have a People's Doctor of the Federation.

Fuck this show. Yeah, it is technically enjoyable, the production's competent, the writing's coherent, and all the IP loyalist signifiers are there. And if you need someone to complain about how some aspect of those things fell short, you can find that anywhere on Reddit or YouTube movie "criticism" channels.

Yes, this show has somehow managed to avoid the curse of incompetent production that some magic user cast on live action adaptations. Unfortunately the result is something way more horrific than any mess of mangled CGI you can laugh at with friends on a lazy afternoon. It is instead the eerily perfect, hollow shell of the original series possessed by the utter death drive of capitalism. Unlike other series, who often don't even have enough depth in the original for this to happen to them, The live action ATLA was somehow killed on a level far deeper than shitty production value or low sales. One could argue that it was killed the moment the merch factories started churning years ago, but that's out of the scope of this post.

To watch the live action ATLA is to literally witness the recuperation of actual writing and art. The ever-present, disgustingly rare in American television, criticism of imperialism is faded to only the remnants they were forced to leave in due to the skeleton of the plot, instead portraying those who suffer from the war, yet still want to take action, as jaded bullies and cowards. Jet's portrayal is somehow made a MORE liberal and inaccurate depiction of revolutionaries than the original show's. Instead of being a genuine rebel simply going "too far", a portrayal that would unfortunately be an improvement now, he is a random terrorist who kills innocent people in the in his city he lives in because he dislikes the people who are trying to invade it and don't yet. live. there???????? Because he thinks King Bumi isn't doing enough????????? So he randomly bombs people??????????? . I think they were trying to make Jet and Bumi mirror the "Bernie-bro radical left" and Joe Biden IRL, basically trying to both sides things, but if that's the case than it's even worse because America is the country????? Doing the imperializing???????? Not the one BEING imperialized???

That is, unfortunately, the most mild affront of this adaptation, granted mercy only by the utterly shit, "I hate violinists so I'll make a violinist kill people" tier depiction of the original character they adapted. There are far worse crimes in this adaptation, and I wish they were just failures to adapt the plot or the characters.

The show's minimum, bare bones criticism of toxic masculinity and misogyny has been completely removed and stripped away, entirely deleting Sokka (now Sokkka)'s character arc from the show. Of course, the damage to the characters doesn't really matter that much in comparison to the whitewashing and erasure of even the most basic fucking critique of oppressive systems. Unfortunately it doesn't even stop at the removal of political criticism; The entire philosophical breadth of the show has been flattened and reduced to basic tropes. Aang's commitment to life and an uncompromising belief in freedom has been obliterated, and not even the shadow of it remains. Aang is no longer a child grappling with immense obligations, but instead a child who simply went on a ten-minute joyride to clear his head and then had his whole world taken away from him. Rather than grappling with the show's nuanced themes of adulthood, responsibility, freedom, and childishness, they opt instead to have Aang be scolded by every adult he meets about his lack of responsibility, with a complete dearth of pushback (minus a single "power of friendship" moment against Bumi, who is now a cynical old boomer), even from Aang himself, even though he DIDN'T EVEN RUN AWAY IN THIS ADAPTATION!!!!!! WHAT AM I EVEN SUPPOSED TO TAKE FROM THIS??? ???

Any themes or interrogations of redemption, grief, and loss are killed along with Uncle Iroh's empathy. While, ironically, we have an entire scene where Uncle Iroh the smol bean war criminal is BUWWIED by an MEANIE soldiew who's angwy JUST because his city suffewed a dwaught because of Iroh 🥺. Iroh taunts him and lords over him as being morally superior (despite being a FUCKING WAR CRIMINAL), and it is unfortunately very obvious that we are supposed to sympathize with Iroh in this scene, and view the soldier as unreasonable. Turning a character who is meant to represent someone who realized the horror of war and imperialism only after their own son was lost in combat, to a war criminal who we are meant to forgive even though he isn't sorry, because he doesn't do the war crimes anymore I guess??????

deeply unserious show. Live action shit sucks anyway

I'm also fairly sure it didn't even pass the fucking Bechdel test.