DarthJon

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[–] DarthJon@lemmy.world -3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

First of all, he's not my president. I'm not Israeli.

Second, comments made by certain people in the immediate aftermath of a traumatic terror attack aren't proof of genocidal intent. He has clarified his position since then.

Also, have you ever wondered why South Africa of all countries brought the case to the ICJ? Do you think it has anything to do with the fact that they entertained Hamas leaders as visiting dignitaries a month before they submitted the case?

[–] DarthJon@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago (27 children)

Says international law. https://casebook.icrc.org/a_to_z/glossary/proportionality#:~:text=The%20principle%20of%20proportionality%20prohibits,and%20direct%20military%20advantage%20anticipated%E2%80%9D.

Hamas wants to make a deal if they can get what they want out of it. That's the whole reason they took hostages. Terrorists who take hostages shouldn't get what they want.

[–] DarthJon@lemmy.world -5 points 8 months ago

And again, Gaza is not a genocide.

[–] DarthJon@lemmy.world -2 points 8 months ago (29 children)

That's not what the principle of proportionality means. It has nothing to do with the death toll on each side. It's a principle that's applied to each individual strike and requires armed forces to ensure that any civilian deaths are proportional to the military objectives of the strike. Hamas and Hebollah are terrorist organizations that don't respect the laws of war, so that's a pretty big point in favor of Israel.

Second, many military experts have agreed that, given the conditions in which Israel is fighting this war, the civilian-to-combatant ratio in Gaza is among the lowest in the history of urban warfare. You've seen what Israel is capable of over the past year - it's patently obvious that the death toll could have been much, much higher.

Third, the moral judgment of rightness or wrongness in a conflict isn't determined by the death toll on each side. The winners of a war will typically suffer fewer casualties than the losers because that's a big part of how winners in war are determined. The fact that very few US civilians died in WWII compared to German civilians doesn't make the US the bad guys in that war.

There is one side in this conflict that is openly genocidal: the Iranian regime. They have literally admitted their goal is to destroy Israel. They have a doomsday clock in Tehran counting down to the death of Israel in the year 2040. And they are willing to sacrifice every single Palestinian life to make that happen.

[–] DarthJon@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

What are you, 10 years old?

[–] DarthJon@lemmy.world -4 points 8 months ago (31 children)

How are the hard numbers devastating to our case?

[–] DarthJon@lemmy.world -5 points 8 months ago (33 children)

LOL, every time someone provides contrary evidence to your accusation it gets labeled "whataboutism." I know all the anti-Zionist propaganda tricks.

Russia invaded a sovereign nation to take over their land. Israel is fighting back against a genocidal regime that has sponsored terrorist violence against it for decades, and has promised to destroy it. Big difference.

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