Krono

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[–] Krono 5 points 2 months ago

Misinformation bot thinks ABC news is left center lmao.

Sadly the only reason its here is because lemmy.world admins are being paid by mbfc :(

[–] Krono 6 points 2 months ago

Misinformation Bot For Chuds

[–] Krono 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You keep suggesting that I am uninformed and unresearched, so please correct me if I got any of the facts wrong.

You keep suggesting that my criticism is just a loud cry, but this is just hand waving the problem away. You have failed to directly address any of my concerns.

To add to my list of cocerns, here is a new one: Have you or any other LW mods/admins been paid by MBFC?

[–] Krono 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Wow so you're telling me mbfc isn't staffed by volunteers, instead they are trying to get paid by subs and ad revenue?

The more I learn about mbfc the worse it gets.

[–] Krono 28 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Wow you continue to surprise me, I would have never expected this kind of communication to come publically from a mod.

I think I have made my criticisms of MBFC fairly clear, and your characterization of my criticisms is an obvious strawman.

But since I have your attention, let me try to rephrase the problem: Lemmy was built on principles of open source, transparency, freedom of speech, and community input. The MBFC bot does not follow any of these principles.

In it's current form, the MBFC bot is a stain on the integrity of LW. I urge you to make a change.

The community has largely made their voice heard on the subject, as evidenced by the large number of downvotes on the bot and on your posts here. I urge you to listen to them.

[–] Krono 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think you're splitting hairs here.

The difference between "aiding and abetting" and "comitting" are vanishingly small. Both crimes deserve the most severe condemnation, both crimes deserve the most severe punishment.

[–] Krono 16 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I think many people arrive at libertarianism not by following core principles, but instead by following their reactionary personal desires.

Business owners become libertarian because eliminating taxes and worker protections is great for their short term profits.

"Traditional family" men become libertarian because they want to wishcast the fantasy of being a strong, independent, agrarian citizen with an obedient wife.

Pedophiles become libertarian because eliminating age of consent laws would legalize their sick desires.

[–] Krono 33 points 2 months ago (12 children)

Wow I had no idea the LW team made this bot, how disappointing.

Do the consistant downvotes on the bot give you any concern that you are making a mistake here?

I always thought of LW as the "default" sub here on Lemmy, but all of this: the rightwing bot itself, 'please block the bot instead of downvoting', the thinly veiled threats of ban; all of it is pretty strong evidence you are attempting to cultivate an ideological echo chamber here.

Anyway, I'll continue to do my civic duty and downvote the misinformation bot whenever I happen to see it.

Thanks

[–] Krono 15 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Currently the bot's media ratings come from just some guy, who is unaccountable and has an obvious rightwing bias.

If I were to suggest a fix, as you so rudely demanded, I would suggest making the ratings instead come from an open sourced and crowdsourced system. A system where everyone could give their inputs and have transparency, similar to an upvote/downvote system.

Such a system would take many hours to design and maintain, it is not something I personally am willing to contribute, nor would I ask it of any volunteers. This is why I believe the cleanest, easiest, and best solution is to simply ban the bot.

[–] Krono 26 points 2 months ago

I'm saying that if you take "rightwing" information and intentionally mislabel it as "leftwing", yes that is misinformation.

[–] Krono 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (13 children)

Why did you comment? If you followed your own logic then you would have just blocked me instead.

To be serious, I think it's much better for the community if we do not allow misinformation bots to spam every post.

[–] Krono 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What this bot does is analyze US media companies that you Euros would consider "centre right" and mislabels them instead as left.

This is done to shift what we Yanks call "the Overton window" to the right.

The Overton window has been shifting right for decades, which is why "left" and "right" have such a different meaning over here across the pond.

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