Krono

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[–] Krono 7 points 1 month ago (6 children)

I think an ethical shooter would take every reasonable precaution to avoid hitting the human shield.

But in the vanishingly small hypothetical where it could not be avoided, then I would still consider the shooter a hero, yes.

[–] Krono 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I appreacite your concern, but is there something substantial to fear?

I have not crossed the line into credible death threats; this is first amendment protected speech. If I get a visit from the secret service I will consider it a win for having wasted their time.

And if Trump starts rounding up "online leftists agitators" or "antifa" or whatever to put in his concentration camps, I'll probably already be in the camps for a different reason.

[–] Krono 6 points 1 month ago (10 children)

I fail to see any ethical difference between murdering children under conditions of "warfare" and murdering children via assassination. Both are equally horrific.

[–] Krono 9 points 1 month ago (13 children)

I consider the Soviets and Americans who defeated the Nazis to be heroes, and they murdered a whole heap of children.

Only Sith deal in absolutes.

[–] Krono 7 points 1 month ago (22 children)

Nothing WTF about it, the trolley problem math is overwhelming. If you can kill one person to save a million, it is immoral to abstain.

If you won't kill the king because his child prince is an innocent, then you will be a peasant forever.

[–] Krono 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes the British film Battle for Haditha received funding from the DoD's Entertainment Media Office. It is difficult to find any military film that has not been funded in part by this propagada office.

I do have one fact incorrect though, they did not receive millions. It appears they received much less, although I couldnt find an exact number.

But here you are ignoring the thrust of my argument, that the insidious free market propaganda by the US is much more effective than the heavy handed authoritarian propaganda by China. Yes, you can go get an advanced degree and learn about Haditha freely, but that knowledge is effectively prevented from reaching the broader public.

[–] Krono 10 points 1 month ago

Both US and China actively deny and suppress information. The Chinese method is more authoritarian, the US method is more effective.

I argue this point on another comment in this thread.

[–] Krono 7 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Well I thought we were discussing education, but as far as information supression is concerned, I think both countries are heavily supresssing information, but the US method is simply much more effective.

Take for example an event similar in scale to the Tiananmen massacre, the Haditha massacre. The US military actively suppressed all info after it happened, classifying everything related to the killings. The only information from the state dept about this incident were leaks to the press downplaying the severity of the incident. Later, the DoD spends millions funding a Hollywood film to whitewash the incident, focusing on the perspective of the poor sad soldiers who did the massacre.

The result, I would argue, is that the Haditha massacre has been whitewashed, justified, and erased from history much more effectively than the Tiananmen massacre.

[–] Krono 8 points 1 month ago (5 children)

So you were left ignorant of the other half of the atrocities I mentioned, just like we suspect Chinese citizens are ignorant of Tiananmen?

I went to high school in North Dakota btw.

[–] Krono 38 points 1 month ago (17 children)

I think there are many events in American history that could be analogous to Tiananmen.

Were you ever educated on the 1985 MOVE bombing? The destruction of black wall street? The house un-american activities committee? The battle of Blair Mountain?

Were you ever taught about any of the coups we did to overthrow democratic governments in latin america? The death squads we trained? The authoritarians and fascists we put into power, and the oppression and death they caused?

Or, in general, the 70-or-so countries we invaded since WWII? I think most Americans can only name Iraq, Afghanistan, and Vietnam.

And that's just the stuff I can name off the top of my head, I'm sure there are countless American atrocities that I am unaware of.

Personally, the American education system taught me none of that. Many of these subjects are not discussed in broad American culture.

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