Kushan

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[–] Kushan@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Big instances surfing up content from smaller instances is invariably going to cripple them unless larger instances start locally caching that content.

[–] Kushan@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's true if of any power plant though. It'll still be cheaper and safer (if it ever works).

[–] Kushan@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The main goal of these sites is link aggregation. It wouldn't be overly difficult for a federated server with its own /c/Technology community to see other posts from other communities linking to the same thing and combining the discussions into a single view.

The tricky part there is moderation, but even that's manageable by allowing moderators to remove content from a federated view within their own instance, it'll just be difficult when a small instance is dwarfed by a larger one.

[–] Kushan@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This won't be possible. Best you can do is use something like waybackmachine to get a cached version of the page.

[–] Kushan@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Freedom of speech is never freedom of consequence. And if that consequence is that nobody wants to listen to you, well that's on you.

[–] Kushan@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

I think this is true but I think it has always been the case. The question is were there more bots than usual and I'm unconvinced there was.

[–] Kushan@beehaw.org 23 points 1 year ago

https://blackout.photon-reddit.com/

There's a bit of a gap in the data but despite some subs coming back online, it seems the number of comments has more or less stayed at the levels of the last 2 days.

[–] Kushan@beehaw.org 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm aware, what I am getting at is that there's multiple "Right" answers to solving what is essentially a very difficult problem.

[–] Kushan@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nobody really knows, but I personally don't think there were any more bots on Monday than there was a week earlier. It's a nice story that users dropped with the subs going dark, but I think it might be wishful thinking on our part. To my knowledge there's zero evidence to suggest that they were mostly bots.

[–] Kushan@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago

I did similar, I swapped my shortcuts/apps for ones going to Lemmy. The muscle memory has worked in my favour.

[–] Kushan@beehaw.org 27 points 1 year ago (18 children)

The subs going dark should have only been half of the protest. Users should have also stayed away from the site but I don't think that was really coordinated.

The number of new posts didn't drop much, the comments dropped a bit more but only by like 20%, which isn't a lot given the amount of subs that went dark. Reddit doesn't care about subs, they care about users and it seems engagement was still pretty high.

The next protest should be to all users to stop using the site. Drop the users and they'll start to listen.

[–] Kushan@beehaw.org 38 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I don't know a lot about Lemmy's implementation but a difficult thing to deal with is how do you "rank" a post? Like you have a small community of a few active people, but there's federation with a massive community with lots of users - which posts are "better"?

Worse still, there's an inherent lag/delay with the federated posts, a post that was very active in the last hour might have only been federated to the server in the last 5mins - so what do you do, do you bubble up all those posts or ignore it because there's more recent and relevant things?

The kicker is that these decision points aren't instant either, any system that's doing this kind of ranking will have an algorithm as you describe, but that algorithm will take time to process all the data, while the data is coming in batches as each server federates with each other. It's a difficult problem to solve.

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