Lem453

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[–] Lem453@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago

It's not easy but they only way to make it all work without creating massive security holes is to only buy things that allow connection with open standards (which means home Assistant can connect to it.

[–] Lem453@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The correct way of doing this is to never interact with an iot device directly. Put all of them on the same network with Home Assistant and then control all of them only via Home Assistant. Then you make one exception for home assistant to be accessible to the other networks.

This also allows you to disable Internet access for every single iot device Except home assistant.

[–] Lem453@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I don't remember all the details. They never went closed source, there was a difference in opinion between primary devs on the direction the project should take.

Its possible that was related to corporate funding but I don't know that.

Regardless it was a fork where some devs stayed with owncloud and most went with NextCloud. I moved to NextCloud at this time as well.

OwnCloud now seems to have the resources to completely rewrite it from the ground up which seems like a great thing.

If the devs have a disagreement again then the code can just be forked again AFAIK just like any other open source project.

[–] Lem453@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 months ago (3 children)

If I understand it correctly, layering an application is no more dangerous than a regular install on a non atomic os. In other words, every piece of software you have installed on normal fedora desktop is not containerized, if it's software you were going to install anyways, layering it is the same as before (albeit significantly slower than install and update).

But that means that you get great benefits because 99% of your software packages are properly containerized

[–] Lem453@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I only read the beginning but it says you can use it for private deployments but can't use it commercially. Seems reasonable. Any specific issues?

[–] Lem453@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I have no problem supporting devs but locking what should be core features behind a paywall in unacceptable for me.

[–] Lem453@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I mean software that's actively being developed can't be called DOA. Even if it's garbage now (and I don't know if it is) doesn't mean it can't become useful at a future date.

Its not like a TV show where once released it can never be changed.

[–] Lem453@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Oh never mind, I saw this finding announcement for 6M and assumed it was the same company. Looks like they have many corporate investors...doesn't inspire too much confidence.

Although they are still using the Apache 2 license and you can see they are very active in github. It does look like it's a good FOSS project from the surface.

https://owncloud.com/news/muktware-owncloud-gets-another-round-6-3-million-funding-releases-owncloud-6-enterprise-edition/

[–] Lem453@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

Ya it was bought by kiteworks which provides document management services for corps (which explains why that mention traceable file access in their features a lot).

~~That being said, they bought them in 2014 it seems and it's been a decade now~~ Correcting: they were bought very recently, they have been accepting corporate funding for more than a decade however. That's not bad in and of itself.

[–] Lem453@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago

Thank your for providing first hand perspective. I'll probably try to spin up a docker deployment for testing.

I don't really plan to use many of the plugins since I think that was the down fall of NextCloud. Trying to do everything instead of doing it's core job well.

[–] Lem453@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Also looking through some of the issues and comments on github about no plans to implement basic features (file search on the android app) does not inspire confidence at all. One of the reasons I'm hoping the OwnCloud rewrite is good.

[–] Lem453@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Did not know this. Thanks!

Looks like Kiteworks invested in OwnCloud in 2014 and they still seems to be going strong with the OSS development which is a good sign.

This probably explains why there are so many active devs on the project and how they got a full rewrite into version 4 relatively quickly.

Already seems to have more features than Seafile.

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