Lem453

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[–] Lem453@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 months ago (3 children)

If I understand it correctly, layering an application is no more dangerous than a regular install on a non atomic os. In other words, every piece of software you have installed on normal fedora desktop is not containerized, if it's software you were going to install anyways, layering it is the same as before (albeit significantly slower than install and update).

But that means that you get great benefits because 99% of your software packages are properly containerized

[–] Lem453@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I only read the beginning but it says you can use it for private deployments but can't use it commercially. Seems reasonable. Any specific issues?

[–] Lem453@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I have no problem supporting devs but locking what should be core features behind a paywall in unacceptable for me.

[–] Lem453@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I mean software that's actively being developed can't be called DOA. Even if it's garbage now (and I don't know if it is) doesn't mean it can't become useful at a future date.

Its not like a TV show where once released it can never be changed.

[–] Lem453@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Oh never mind, I saw this finding announcement for 6M and assumed it was the same company. Looks like they have many corporate investors...doesn't inspire too much confidence.

Although they are still using the Apache 2 license and you can see they are very active in github. It does look like it's a good FOSS project from the surface.

https://owncloud.com/news/muktware-owncloud-gets-another-round-6-3-million-funding-releases-owncloud-6-enterprise-edition/

[–] Lem453@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

Ya it was bought by kiteworks which provides document management services for corps (which explains why that mention traceable file access in their features a lot).

~~That being said, they bought them in 2014 it seems and it's been a decade now~~ Correcting: they were bought very recently, they have been accepting corporate funding for more than a decade however. That's not bad in and of itself.

[–] Lem453@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago

Thank your for providing first hand perspective. I'll probably try to spin up a docker deployment for testing.

I don't really plan to use many of the plugins since I think that was the down fall of NextCloud. Trying to do everything instead of doing it's core job well.

[–] Lem453@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Also looking through some of the issues and comments on github about no plans to implement basic features (file search on the android app) does not inspire confidence at all. One of the reasons I'm hoping the OwnCloud rewrite is good.

[–] Lem453@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Did not know this. Thanks!

Looks like Kiteworks invested in OwnCloud in 2014 and they still seems to be going strong with the OSS development which is a good sign.

This probably explains why there are so many active devs on the project and how they got a full rewrite into version 4 relatively quickly.

Already seems to have more features than Seafile.

[–] Lem453@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago

I know, I did as well.

The point of the post is that there is a very active full rewrite of the whole thing trying to ditch all the tech debt that NextCloud inherited from the OG owncloud (php, Apache etc)

[–] Lem453@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago

I had NextCloud on a Ryzen 3600 with NVME zfs array. While faster that my previous Intel atom with HDD + SSD cache, Seafile blows it away in terms of speed and resiliency. It feels much more reliable with updates etc.

[–] Lem453@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Exactly, Seafile is the best I've found so far but a clean re write of the basic sync features would be great.

Seafile for example has full text search locked behind a paywall even though tools like Elasticsearch could be integrated into it for free. Even the android app as filename search locked behind a paywall. You have to log into the website on your phone if you need to search.

Pathetic state of affairs.

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