OccamsRazer

Looks a bit like this one.

After a quick Biden break, they decided to resume their fascism? Nice of them to put it on hold, if only temporarily.

The UK government apparently thinks that Palestine action is a much bigger threat than the anti vaxxers, but that isn't really the point. Why don't you just admit that you are an authoritarian and you only care about authoritarianism when it's used against you and your preferred causes?

Dang I gotta really spell it out for you. The government makes classifications of crimes that can be applied and then used to shut down speech that they don't like. That is what they did with the anti vaxxers and that is also what they've done with Palestine action. If you allow them to use tools like this, then eventually they will use it against something you believe in. Public nuisance is a whole lot less serious of a crime compared to terrorism, but the end result, or the goal anyway, is the same; shut down people who give voice and advertise causes they believe in if the government doesn't like them. Additionally, these tools of the government change hands as the parties in power change. Authoritarianism is dangerous no matter who it is used against and needs to constantly kept in check or eventually it will be used against you.

What do you mean? The UK has had a list of terrorists for a long time and if you support them then you can be arrested. "These laws have always been on the books."

My goal is to raise my kids to be productive members of society and to be happy and better off than I am, including planning for their retirement so as not to be a burden on others. If I rely on my kids to take care of me, then that undermines the message of self reliance that I want to teach. On the other hand, if I fall on hard times or health issues or whatever, then I hope that they care enough about me and that I've instilled in them values of charity, empathy and so on such that they would want to care for me.

Yes that is the very problematic and dangerous mechanism by which they stifle free speech, and you won't care until Palestine action people are similarly charged. Which is my entire point.

I've never used the word shylock and don't know for sure if I've ever even heard it prior to recent events, but until you mentioned it now I never made the connection to the word shyster, which i have used before. Although maybe it was more along the lines of sheister. Never really thought about the spelling or etymologyof the word. In any event I am not antisemitic and don't have any issues with Jews at all. They are normal people, who do good things and bad things like anyone else. My problem is in the pearl clutching that happens anytime something like this comes up. Trump got called out for it just like Biden did, and now he knows better. I guess we will see if he continues to use it. I don't think Biden has since his incident, probably because he isn't antisemitic and simply made a poor choice of words out of ignorance. I try to go by hanlons razor in these situations, "never attribute to malice what can be explained by ignorance".

Yes, they also expressed those views...

I was asking if he thought they should

Yeah? Do you think that should be punishable with jail time?

Yeah ok, failed purity test, got it.