PabloDiscobar

The upvote system is way too rudimentary to work efficiently. The upvote incite people to post to become more popular, not to post more interesting content.

One metric is not enough, the upvote system combines both "funny" and "interesting" in the same metric. Soon it's the funny content that is pushed to the top, because it's a more common characteristic. But this is how you get memes, emotional and basic screenshot of tweets to the top of the frontpage. And this is probably what you don't want.

So either we add more type of votes,for example two arrows, like an arrow "interesting" and another arrow "funny" or we get rid of them, leaving only the "report" button.

Get rid of reputation too. Some people are already chain downvoting in rage. What good do you think will happen out of a reputation score? People will just spit on you. People are emotional, don't put a gun in their hands.

"The downvote is useful to get rid of antivaxx"? You have a report button for that. And while the downvote button gets rid of antivaxx, it pushes memes to the top, destroying the platform itself. The benefit of the downvote button doesn't compensate for the flaws of the voting system.

The best way for an antivaxx to get his content visible? It is to get blocked! If he is blocked he cannot be downvoted anymore afaik. So it's all good for him. Even the block system doesn't really work as intended and has nasty side effects. Because yes, you won't see it, but other will, and they will adhere, and they will upvote and post more antivaxx stuff, and inspire more antivaxx people.

And I'm not even starting with the bots and scripting systems, which will detect who downvoted you and will "revenge downvote" for you. Do you want all your post to appear with a starting minus 5 attached to it because you posted about veganism 3 months ago? That's what you will get. All it takes is 5 people who don't like the way you talk, and a script. And all your posts will go down the drain as soon as you post them.

--> The system need either higher granularity or we need to get rid of the voting system, and keep only one button: "report", with a mandatory 60 characters comment with it. <--

For the last few weeks we enjoyed a much better content on kbin than we had on reddit for a long time.

But it is coming to an end as more and more people will be leaving reddit for kbin. With them the trolls, the spammers and the ultrapoliticized americans. They want to push their ideology and there are legions of them.

Even though kbin is not american anymore, the sheer numbers and obsession of american people with their politics will quickly outnumber any other content here. The voting system will make your post about pertinent news sink to the bottom of the frontpage. Lost under the "Trump he said/she said" routine. The same thing that happened on reddit will happen on kbin: people will come for the politics and then spread in others magazines for a quick, uninteresting meme reply.

The articles on the web are still designed to infuriate the readers, so they react and create free ragecontent, and they will do it here. They will get infuriated here, just the same as they did on reddit. This mechanics hasn't changed by changing platform.

The NSFW content is coming, the political memecontent is coming, making the idea of federating this instance with any respectable other pole of interest impossible. If we are to name the federations, this one will become the greentext type of federation. Not a dangerous anarchist federation but certainly a pariah one.

That's why if you really are interested into discussing with people, you would be very well inspired to do it on another instance than kbin.social. Do it on a local instance, where the news are directed by people of your geographical region. Your default instance can only be a regional one, I can't see a global instance like "kbin.social" being not raided by americans with a political agenda. But they won't step a foot in madrid.social or berlin.social. In a sense it's even better if kbin.social can polarize and hold the kind of population which is hypnotized by number and popularity. The right usage of the fediverse should be to pick a local instance near you and only subscribe to niche magazines in different instances based on your specific needs.

The fediverse project will be tested with very high numbers of users now, and I don't think that the implicit federation model which is to accept everything by default and block some will survive the waves of political trolls. The federations will split and specialize, and will defederate en masse. The most sought after federations will become the technology ones, which will probably become picky on the creation of random magazines, like news and politics, since it attracts the worst in content creators. The kbin.social experiment will lead to a more strict moderation model in other instances and probably different way to count votes. I don't think that kbin.social will ever come back from being a perpetual testbench of a social platform.

So don't fall in love with your account on kbin, instead you should get ready to jump to another instance which will inevitably open on a server near you.

Someone here already has 12 subs on his own. We would be inspired to avoid the era of the power mods. Moding should involve an interest, not just collecting rings of infinity like it's a gold rush. How can it be a good practice in the long term?

mentalhealth

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showerthoughts

linux_gaming

Stoicism

Philippines

philosophy

ArtificialIntelligence

Futurology

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singularity

aitools

Your list of subs, in a grid make sure you set it to private

https://kbin.social/settings/subscriptions/magazines

The list of all subs, in a column, sorted by subscribers number

https://kbin.social/magazines

Your Inbox

https://kbin.social/settings/notifications

Your home, list of posts in your subs

https://kbin.social/sub

All, all posts from all subs

https://kbin.social/

All, sorted by new (aka "chaos")

https://kbin.social/newest

you can search by tags: https://kbin.social/tag/tech

You can see who upvoted and downvoted your comments in the activity tab of the "more" button.

You can block a domain like you can block a user. Either through the url::

Http://kbin.social//d/nypost.com

Or by clicking the domain name and then click the block button.

You can turn it off in your options.