Peanutbjelly

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[–] Peanutbjelly@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Chatgpt website*

That statement is more of an echo of previous similar articles.

Anyone who uses the api or similar bots for their site, such as this one, should be responsible to do the same. If they are using the api/bot without similar warning, they also don't understand basic use of the technology. It's a failure on the human side more that the bot side, but that is not how it tends to be framed

My point is that it doesn't matter how good the tools are if people just assume what they are capable of.

It's like seeing a bridge that says "600 pound weight limit". And deciding it can handle a couple tons just because you saw another bridge hold that much.

Imagine if this situation lead to a bunch of people angry at bridges for being so useless.

[–] Peanutbjelly@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's like nobody cares to even touch base level understanding of the tools they are using.

Can we stop framing this as if llms have actual intent?

This shouldn't surprise me given how many people think that we have access to the literal word of God, but they don't even read the damned book they base their lives and social directives around.

Or is it that "news" sources intentionally leave out basic details to ramp up the story?

Ignore the note on the page you are using that says info might not be accurate. Blame the chat bot for your unprofessional ineptitude.

You shouldn't even be putting that level of blind trust into human beings, or even Wikipedia without checking sources.

Guess what, when i use bots for info, i ask for the sources, and check the original sources. Really not difficult, and I'm not being paid half as much as the people I keep seeing in these news articles.

Maybe this should make it more obvious how wealth is not accrued due to competence and ability.

Or for having reliable news. I feel like i live in a world controlled by children.

[–] Peanutbjelly@sopuli.xyz 19 points 1 year ago (4 children)

All oil profits will be taxed extra until it has paid off what it took from the people, right? Were not just taking from the people for the exclusive benefit of large companies right? I'm still confused as to why this was publically funded. Or at least confused to why I haven't seen the guaranteed public value addressed. No trickle down isn't a real public benefit.

[–] Peanutbjelly@sopuli.xyz -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm talking about the general strides in cognitive computing and predictive processing.

https://youtu.be/A1Ghrd7NBtk?si=iaPVuRjtnVEA2mqw

Machine learning is still impressive, we just can better frame the limitations now.

For the note on scale and ecosystems, review recent work by karl friston or Michael Levin.

[–] Peanutbjelly@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Perhaps instead we could just restructure our epistemically confabulated reality in a way that doesn't inevitably lead to unnecessary conflict due to diverging models that haven't grown the necessary priors to peacefully allow comprehension and the ability exist simultaneously.

breath

We are finally coming to comprehend how our brains work, and how intelligent systems generally work at any scale, in any ecosystem. Subconsciously enacted social systems included.

We're seeing developments that make me extremely optimistic, even if everything else is currently on fire. We just need a few more years without self focused turds blowing up the world.

[–] Peanutbjelly@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

AI or no AI, the solution needs to be social restructuring. People underestimate the amount society can actively change, because the current system is a self sustaining set of bubbles that have naturally grown resilient to perturbations.

The few people who actually care to solve the world's problems are figuring out how our current systems inevitably fail, and how to avoid these outcomes.

However, the best bet for restructuring would be a distributed intelligent agent system. I could get into recent papers on confirmation bias, and the confabulatory nature of thought, on the personal level, group level, and society level.

Turns out we are too good at going with the flow, even when the structure we are standing on is built over highly entrenched vestigial confabulations that no longer help.

Words, concepts, and meanings change heavily depending on the model interpreting them. The more divergent, the more difficulty in bridging this communication gap.

a distributed intelligent system could not only enable a complete social restructuring with autonomy and altruism both guaranteed, but with an overarching connection between the different models at every scale, capable of properly interpreting the different views, and conveying them more accurately than we could have ever managed with model projection and the empathy barrier.

[–] Peanutbjelly@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah I'm going to have to leave this sub if this shit keeps ending up in my feed while I'm eating or in public.

[–] Peanutbjelly@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

The main issue though is the economic system, not the technology.

My hope is that it shakes things up fast enough that they can't boil the frog, and something actually changes.

Having capable AI is a more blatantly valid excuse to demand a change in economic balance and redistribution. The only alternative would be destroy all technology and return to monkey. Id rather we just fix the system so that technological advancements don't seem negative because the wealthy have already hoarded all new gains of every new technology for this past handful of decades.

Such power is discretely weaponized through propaganda, influencing, and economic reorganizing to ensure the equilibrium stays until the world is burned to ash, in sacrifice to the lifestyle of the confidently selfish.

I mean, we could have just rejected the loom. I don't think we'd actually be better off, but I believe some of the technological gain should have been less hoardable by existing elite. Almost like they used wealth to prevent any gains from slipping away to the poor. Fixing the issue before it was this bad was the proper answer. Now people don't even want to consider that option, or say it's too difficult so we should just destroy the loom.

There is a markov blanket around the perpetuating lifestyle of modern aristocrats, obviously capable of surviving every perturbation. every gain as a society has made that reality more true entirely due to the direction of where new power is distributed. People are afraid of AI turning into a paperclip maximizer, but that's already what happened to our abstracted social reality. Maximums being maximized and minimums being minimized in the complex chaotic system of billions of people leads to inevitable increase of accumulation of power and wealth wherever it has already been gathered. Unless we can dissolve the political and social barrier maintaining this trend, it we will be stuck with our suffering regardless of whether we develop new technology or don't.

Although doesn't really matter where you are or what system you're in right now. Odds are there is a set of rich asshole's working as hard as possible to see you are kept from any piece of the pie that would destabilize the status quo.

I'm hoping AI is drastic enough that the actual problem isn't ignored.

[–] Peanutbjelly@sopuli.xyz 16 points 2 years ago (4 children)

"The surprising thing we find is that, essentially, you can use the largest model to help you automatically design the smaller ones"

Hey, how do we get a clickbait title out of this?

[–] Peanutbjelly@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I definitely agree that copyright is a good half century in need of an update. Disney company and other contemporaries should never have been allowed the dominance and extension of copywrite that allows what feels like ownership of most global artistic output. They don't need AI, they have the money and interns to create whatever boardroom adjusted art they need to continue their dominance.

Honestly I think the faster AI happens, the more likely it is that we find a way out of the social and economical hierarchical structure that feels one step from anarcho-capitalistic aristocracy.

I just hope we can find the change without riots.

[–] Peanutbjelly@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

And you violate copyright when you think about copywritten things alone at night.

I violate copyright when i draw Mario and don't sell it to anybody.

Or these are dumb stretches of what copyright is and how it should be applied.

the reasoning in this article is dumb and all over the place.

Seems like gary marcus being gary marcus.

Already seen openAI calling out some of the bullshit specifically noted in this. That doesn't matter though, damage is done and people WANT to believe ai is terrible in every way.

Everyone is just deadfast determined to climb onto the gary marcus unreasonable AI hate train no matter what.

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