SolarMech

How are those conspiracy theories? They are consensus you disagree with that people are sensitive about? Where is the conspiracy? Just that most people disagree with you?

A lot of these "theories" that you disagree with have no conspiracy in them. Mate you're just angry that most people disagree with you.

This is our only hope for climate change.

Things get better when solar out-competes coal and other fossil fuels. We're just missing the deployment rate right now I think to be able to just stop fossil fuel use from growing.

But we could have reduced consumption instead and done this much, much faster. The economy might have needed to shift to deal with this and a lot of old industries should have been shut down within only a few years, but it would have had a major impact. Instead we wait for new industries to grow alongside the old, while still growing the old!

Basically if billionaires can capture carbon, they will probably use it as a way to make governments pay to clean the air, which is essentially an ongoing tax from a private entity to a public one, which could conceivably go on forever (or until people try to nationalize it).

Which is "ok" as wages will start to go up over time (for some). But some wages don't climb as fast and some people are on fixed revenue (old people, disabled people).

So it requires readjustments

I was under the impression that even in other countries, activism is generally separate from the political parties and it's more like activist groups putting pressure on candidates and organizing for them if they are more favorable, and sometimes getting something in return.

I've seen exceptions, but I gather they are rare (and we can already see some change as the party is under pressure to become more "normal" and "competitive").

Don't tempt the fates. You will get this, but everything else will be worse.

Trust me. Don't temp the fates.

THIS.

All the rest of this conversation is pedantic nonsense (on both sides, I might add).

It's like if the law decided that only fire brick red as defined by this website is red : https://html-color.codes/red

And then someone on lemmy said "the court said your car isn't red". And then we'd have to spend a half hour and an incredibly long post to explain how courts sometimes use different definitions for words that people use in normal conversation, and to be careful how you interpret that.

Bottom line is Trump did what everyone else is calling rape.

Yes, you horrible criminal monster.

Looking back, I probably shouldn’t have been doing that. Definitely illegal.

You know that stuff you post on lemmy is probably on databases everywhere for like, forever, right?

I used 7zip for so long I thought it was retro by now.

It's like a few lifetime's worth of efforts went into defending this guy.

Revolutions tends to lead to powerful people seizing the state and centralizing everything.

The usual theory they bandy about it is that they are a "vanguard" of "elites" who will prepare the ground for socialism. And when they are done they will turn the system over to the workers to control it like promised, from the bottom up.

Spoilers : They never do, so far at least.

Instead they will take over any worker-led initiative and stifle it and shoot the organizers if they don't get the memo. You wind up with the state owning the means of production and the workers owning next to nothing and being worked as hard as under capitalism. You typically wind up with a centralized, bureaucratic dictatorship.

On top of that, because the rest of the world is in a different system and to become a socialist state one must break the other system's rules, you've pissed off most of the powerful people outside your border. This leads to a besieged mentality (and assassination attempts, and coup attempts, etc.) which keeps up the pressure on that state to keep being a dictatorial, paranoid mess. Oh and it can also lead to stiffened trade as you become a pariah. And historically the USSR's economy for instance performed worse than the US's.

That said, other alternatives don't have to include armed revolution. You can start a worker coop, and that is technically socialism (or anarchism? I forget), because the workers would own the means of production. You'd be able to do that within a capitalist framework without too much conflict and without pissing too many people off (really I can't see anyone but ideological goblins and competitors bitching about this. And competitors always bitch anyways). Of course, contrary to wage labour, you have to bear the financial risks yourself.