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Never said they were???

Aight, disengaging.

I didn't accuse people of straight up lying.

Dead children sucks. Even if they are the children of fascists supporters.

Hamas disagrees with you.

The group said that avoiding harming civilians “is a religious and moral commitment”

It added that “maybe some faults happened” during the attack.

Thanks for the shitty bad faith accusations. This kind of conversation sucks.

Some people in this thread really do need to

Violent opposition to genocide is of course justified, but publicly chanting supporting for an event that is, at the very least, widely public perceived as a massacre of civilians, is pretty shitty protest tactics at best. And discrediting fed-work at worst.

Critical support for Hamas. They should do more violent resistance to the IDF, and sadly civilians will die, but that aspect is an unfortunate necessity, not a thing to be lauded. Hamas themselves say they made mistakes in that attack.

People should not stand with them on every issue and event; overall obviously fighting a genocide makes them worthy of support.

Everyone isn't really talking to each other but instead they talk to the audience.

I do agree that is it. I think this may be the fundamental, awful problem with modern-day social media and basically all forms of online interaction, even big Discord servers. To actually have a conversation with someone is basically impossible, you're just only ever people at podiums shouting into the void.

Some forums have always been famously nasty places. For those of us old enough to remember the internet pre-2010, and lucky enough to stumble on the right corners of the internet, plenty of forums were actually super cool, tiny, self-moderated niche communities with like 20-30 active users tops where you could genuinely share passions and make friends. All but one of my good online friends I have now were made back then.

No idea how anyone would find many nice interactions now. Hexbear is as close as it gets for me, but it's still significantly different.

To be honest, this is a very common occurrence in all UK schools up to ages ~13. I and at least 10 other students in my year group of ~150 were forced to wet ourselves in the middle of class because our requests to go to the bathroom were denied, not even by particularly 'toxic' or 'mean' teachers, it's just a fairly normal attitude. I remember asking to go for like the fifth time, the teacher said "You can wait.", and in response I showed her my piss-covered hand.

You'd think cleaning up all the piss would be enough to deter that policy, but apparently not.

It is child abuse though, and these really shitty attitudes to the needs of children are not spoken out against nearly as much as they should be.