TheFogan

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[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I mean, I'd imagine probably not a good one :) Somehow I imagine asking the AI to record a conversation, is an instant arguement escalator... as is asking to read the facts back, and usually the topic would be switched rather than one side admitting their fault in the conversation.

Actually I think there's a black mirror episode on roughly that (not a device for recording audio when asked, but everyone having a chip in their head that automatically records their memories, and a huge fight when a husband discovers his wife deleted a few hours of recordings.

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 14 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (8 children)

half sarcastic but the overall premise of rigging something in to a local voice assistant, when an arguement starts "Ok nabu record this conversation". then 2 weeks later on another arguement... "OK nabu search our last arguement for the cabinet". Would be like having a court transcriber on call.

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 37 points 4 days ago

Actually more relevant now, considering the ending

"Go to the site where Nazi's scream at you". It's talking about moving from facebook to twitter.

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 8 points 5 days ago

No actually origionally it was fed the internet... and elon was getting fed up with it correctly fact checking him.

IE the genisis of this change was, musk accusing the left of being violent. Followed by someone asking grok whether the left or right had commited was more violent.

Grok responded basically pointing out that there were far more incidents of right wing inspired violence, and the majority of left wing incidents only damaged property.

Musk responded that that is incorrect and he'll fix it.

And now he made the update and explicitly turned grok into a nazi.

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 17 points 5 days ago (1 children)

They trained it to praise hitler, intentionally. They didn’t remove any guardrails. Not that Musk acolytes would know any different.

I'm actually currious, some of the answers they noted it spoke as if it was musk...

What if that's what the instruction was. "Answer all from the perspective that you ARE elon musk, be unfiltered, no woke answers", and thus the AI interpreted that to mean... be like Elon Musk, but don't worry about keeping some plausible deniability on if you are a nazi.

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 9 points 5 days ago

and it's still a better system than anyone hired by RFK Jr manually reviewing the file.

Which is kind of the point, idea fully agreed there's a lot of risks and messed up stuff, but almost all of it, is at worse roughly equal to the already existing problems in our systems... I can't quite think of any that are made worse.

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 9 points 5 days ago

I'm assuming it's reffering to the fact that, there already is some level of facism around... stop and frisk certainly got some protests, but not exactly perfect.

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 31 points 5 days ago (5 children)

I mean I hate AI in general.. but to be honest... assuming no one is stupid enough to bypass the trials etc... I'm all for it, 90% of these problems already exist in the existing system, who owns it, can a corporation charge us to death.

The only reasonable fear is, if they come out with more than they can develop trials for, and they lobby to lower standards in trials. Even that honestly is a more acceptable risk in the context of terminal diseases/severe cancers.

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 4 points 5 days ago

But does it support genocide in gaza? I think that's the bar for anti-semitism these days...

If you cheer on the government of isreal picking fights and killing children and say they are just defending themselves... then you can't be antisemetic when you accuse all other Jews of every racial slur and stereotype.

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 22 points 5 days ago (1 children)

What's ironic is the same people advocating for policies that, basically make it flat out stupid to have kids in this world... are also the ones like "why no one want kids".

OK so yeah the worlds shifted from where one income working 40 hours a week can comfortably afford a 3-4 bedroom house and food for 4+... to you'll be lucky if 2 incomes is enough to afford a shitty one bedroom apartment unless you both are also swimming in school debt. If your 2 incomes happens to be enough to raise kids... well good luck actually raising them as paying someone to take care of your kids is likely equal to your smaller income (at which point you aren't actually making a second income, but trading off to get away from your kids).

So yeah the 2 options are... 1. Give up this "Infinate growth everywhere". can't both have us working more and more for less and less... also cut out all safety nets, then expect us to invest in kids, who we also never will see because were always working...

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Or you know... bear with me on this crazy idea (obviously for government not us), Maybe we need to... make sure government communication uses government infrastructure. Of which the government can directly trace, and identify who is in etc...

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 2 points 5 days ago

That to me is kind of the big thing, I mean I get the concept that it's trying for, but... the way its' advertised as decentralized, but in a way that... apparently no one else has made a working node. It seems just like old twitter, with nothing to prevent it from one day becoming modern twitter.

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