Vincent

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[–] Vincent@kbin.social 14 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Reminder: 2021 was not a normal year, due to the pandemic, and emissions have risen again afterwards, IIRC. The trendline is good, but comparing these specific years doesn't paint the clearest picture.

[–] Vincent@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

At least it was wrong about Timmermans πŸ˜…

[–] Vincent@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Would have to be both. I guess technically that's an option, in that it might make it more palatable for VVD+NSC, but then we're at a five-party coalition (six if you count GL/PvdA as two parties).

[–] Vincent@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Those 15 additional seats would have to come from voters who did not vote for him, getting angry about him not governing. If they wanted him in the government, why didn't they vote for him?

And this is especially true in the case of NSC, who've said multiple times beforehand that they'd rather not govern with PVV. If you voted for them, you can't (and probably wouldn't) really be mad at them for doing what they said they'd do.

[–] Vincent@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

And D66, otherwise they won't have a majority. Though the Senate (Eerste Kamer) I think will still be a challenge.

[–] Vincent@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (3 children)

At the same time, people are bound to compare it to e.g. Trump, who actually got a majority. It's good to know that our electoral system works differently, if you're unfamiliar with it.

[–] Vincent@kbin.social 29 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Well, that's not set in stone yet. If he doesn't manage to form a coalition (and it's very much in the realm of possibilities that he won't be able to), the GreenLeft-Labour Party is next in line. In which case a GL-PvdA/VVD/NSC/D66 coalition (parties #2-#5) is not unlikely. Which I'm guessing would have to make some concessions when it comes to migration, but would probably be OK-ish news for the EU, the climate, and democracy and rule of law.

[–] Vincent@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

That was a way to walk back on her former statement that she wouldn't join a Wilders government. It meant that she didn't think he'd convince other parties to join his coalition.

Which mostly depends on NSC. We'll see what they do, but I can imagine negotiations stranding and Timmermans getting a shot.

[–] Vincent@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago

SP did that, and look where that got them.

[–] Vincent@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago

Haha now that you mention it, they do have similar logos.

[–] Vincent@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I mean, how many people do you need? Surely if you can pick from all the women in Spain, you should be able to find 11 competent ones?

[–] Vincent@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

Allright allright, you win :)

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