VolatileExhaustPipe

joined 1 year ago

And yet throwaway is a racist and aligns well with nationalists:

This shit is why not every migrant is good. They bring their shitty homophobic culture with them.

They would be cheered for with that sentence in Nazi bars.

A little step, but an important one.

Do you label yourself as libertarian or something like that? This post and the other one hint at it: https://lemmygrad.ml/comment/1115631

Is in your eyes the problem the "corporatism" of capitalism? If yes it would be funny that a person that ate that propaganda is defending fascists, since you would be carrying water for fascists.

[–] VolatileExhaustPipe@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes. I typed in "White Supremacists 2020 USA" and this is what I got in the first rows:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unite_the_Right_rally

Look at those flags: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unite_the_Right_rally#/media/File:Charlottesville_'Unite_the_Right'_Rally_(35780274914)_crop.jpg

1 Nazi flag per 2 Gadsen "Tread on me" flags and per 3 confederate flags.

Meanwhile when you search for "tread on me" flag usa 2020 you will get a vast majority of right wing white supremacists posing with that flag and little else.

[–] VolatileExhaustPipe@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just like I would never care about the ends reached by colonialist means.

That is good and yet: Which country are you living in?

[–] VolatileExhaustPipe@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I would like to add that liberal well of people and large land owners which also labeled themselves as somewhat liberal in Italy before the Fascists came to power were quick in allying with the Fascists and enact violence against socialist and communist groups and structures they supported, for example unions. The liberals did use violence to shut off that political and economic enemy, yet they didn't then to fight the fascists and also didn't ally with socialists to stand against the fascists.

You can find very extensive studies about that which use voting shares before the take over and alike.

To put it bluntly while liberals espouse liberal values when the situation is rough they - or be it people with means, economic, political, parliamentary or party mandates - regularly did chose to fight socialists, anarchists and communist to not rock the boat and to not be uncivil.

[–] VolatileExhaustPipe@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

He is right though. It isn't a fallacy, the usage of the word tankie is so far removed from content that it is a bad term and more thought terminating than anything.

Tankies were originally a small subset of some Western and some, mostly East European, socialists and communists which were in favour of a (para-)military response to the revolt in Hungary in 1956. It was a complex situation and even people not on the side of Nagy within Hungary were in favour of the Soviet action.

The term now was used, and amplified by intelligence agencies and Western media, to decry the Soviet action and more importantly de-legitimize several communist groups. In that sense the functional usage of the term is similar, but the question is where would the slur hit actually?

In principle it would hit a small sub section of MLs who followed Khrushchev's decision. Many people within the pact did see the de-Stalinisation and how it was communicated as problematic, as it enabled opposition forces to claim ground in countries. Nagy tried to do introduce reforms, the most far reaching: "Hungary to leave the Warsaw Pact and declare neutrality in the Cold War."

Countries thinking about leaving the dominant two powers spheres of influence during the Cold War were often met with violence. See the Jakarta Method for more information about that (i.e. Vietnam, Korea, Indonesia, the whole of South America). During that time colonialism was also still relevant and colonial powers did use excessive violence, this is another part of the book.

Now what you and others do is labeling people who are to the left of the Soviets at that point as Tankies. Which is doubly wrong and cynical. What is interesting is that the slur can be traced back for the last 6 years to the US and there to more right wing places. It wasn't primarily a phrase that was used by leftists. However after the heating chamber of the alt right online people used it to label even people who are democratic socialists at best.

In that sense it is a continuity to the Red Scare, to not have to engage with content.

Luckily the US would never in the 1950s use regime change in countries, for example it would never use military force in Guatemala to ensure the profits of the United Fruit company and the CIA director's family or

alike1948–1960s Italy 1949 Syrian coup d'état 1949–1953 Albania 1953 Iranian coup d'état 1954 Guatemalan coup d'état 1956–57 Syria crisis 1957–58 Indonesian rebellion 1959–2000 assassination attempts on Fidel Castro 1959 Cambodia, Bangkok Plot 1960 Congo coup d'état 1961 Cuba, Bay of Pigs Invasion 1961 Cuba, Operation Mongoose 1961 Dominican Republic 1963 South Vietnamese coup d'état 1964 Brazilian coup d'état 1965–66 Indonesia, Transition to the New Order 1966 Ghanaian coup d'état 1971 Bolivian coup d'état 1970–1973 Chile 1976 Argentine coup d'état 1979 Salvadoran coup d'état 1979–1989 Afghanistan, Operation Cyclone 1975–1992 Angola, UNITA 1981–1990 Nicaragua, Contras 1982 Chad 1996 Iraq coup attempt

[–] VolatileExhaustPipe@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Didn't you forget to ask someone? :jesus:

[–] VolatileExhaustPipe@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

You are correct, the "ghost city" claim is about a decade old and in the time since then good functioning cities developed incorporating those infrastructure and urban resources built previously.

Zhujiang New Town for example can house up to two million people (often moving out from the 7-10 million living in the old areas) and while I dislike the urban planing of it, it was once among the foremost called "ghost city" in propaganda, yet it is larger than most cities in most states of the US as example.

I also agree that having too many flats seems to not be that bad a problem to have. Especially when 2‰ of the US are unhoused - even though there are millions of empty flats.

Its a pet peeve of mine, which urban-rural area are you living in? Which language would you like to learn?

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