Willie

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[–] Willie@kbin.social 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

How do you know what page you're on?

Edit: Nevermind, I forgot that infinite scroll isn't the default setting. Haha.

[–] Willie@kbin.social 2 points 6 months ago

If the machine can prove that it is conscious (prior to the torture, of course), I'd most likely class it on the same level as a cat or a dog. Cats and dogs are friendly critters who help me do tasks and spend time with me, and an AI would be no different at that point. They'd just be able to do more complex tasks. I guess they might be a little lower, since they lack agency, accept commands, and must follow sets of rules to decide to do tasks, unlike animals and people, who we have accepted can decide what they do and don't wish to do.

The only other real difference is that cats, dogs, and people are individuals, with their own upbringings and personalities. Meanwhile an AI would be able to be copied, and many of them could be born from the same original experiences. If basement man copied his tortured AI a few million times, did he torture one AI, or did he torture a million? I think that's where the real difference lies, that makes the AI less than human.

If you lopped a cat's brain out, and were able to hook it up to the AI torture device, and it was magically compatible, it'd be a far greater torture, because there is only one cat, and there will only ever be one cat, the cat cannot be restored from a snapshot, and you cannot copy the cat. If you did the same with a human, it would be an even greater torture yet for the same reasons.

From an ethical standpoint, today I think it would be equal to animal abuse, however, we won't perceive it that way, since it will benefit corporations for us to think that real AI are not alive and have no rights. So they'll likely spend lots of time and money to change our perception to agree with that standpoint. We will think of them as we think of cows and pigs, where they might have feelings and such, but it doesn't really matter, because those animals are made of tasty food.

[–] Willie@kbin.social 4 points 6 months ago

You're right, apart from the bridge and the immediate way back at the farthest north point, they didn't retrace any steps. But yeah.

[–] Willie@kbin.social 81 points 6 months ago (7 children)

I don't really think this counts, since he doubles back around at a point, I mean, if you're allowed to do that, you can drive for 30 hours almost anywhere, and still be in the same area.

[–] Willie@kbin.social 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

And be careful, a lot don't have built in speakers either. Don't just expect to get a TV out of a commercial display.

[–] Willie@kbin.social 3 points 7 months ago

No, it's not, and it'd be an example of the decentralization working as intended.

The benefits of being able to have many communities for the same thing can really shine here. As an 'experiment', make a lemmy instance of your own, ban all discussion of these topics, and create communities for the things you like there while enforcing the new rules. If the benefits of not discussing those topics are worthwhile to people, they'll start interacting with your instance and you'll have made a nice thing for yourself. Otherwise I guess you can keep to yourself in the bubble that you were seeking to create.

[–] Willie@kbin.social 2 points 7 months ago

I hope Nintendo announces something soon, I feel like there's only like 5 games coming out this year.

[–] Willie@kbin.social 3 points 7 months ago

Kind of like the Pizza Hut demo discs for PS1?

[–] Willie@kbin.social 3 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Wow... this isn't even the first time I've seen this recommended. That's really funny.

[–] Willie@kbin.social 63 points 7 months ago

Well, it shouldn't be hard to write in an exemption just for folks with wheelchairs. It's almost a non-issue.

[–] Willie@kbin.social 5 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Windows has been getting worse and worse all the time. With any luck, as Windows gets worse, interest in Linux will rise on its own. But it's hard to say what tomorrow brings.

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