ashenblood

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[–] ashenblood@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I agree. People tend to ascribe inherent traits to other groups, when in fact observed behaviors can usually be traced not to inherent dispositions, but to specific environmental conditions that incentivize said behaviors.

For instance, a white man in our current social environment who exhibits a confident, assertive attitude is well situated to succeed. White men are expected to be competent and often rewarded for appearing competent, so they sometimes attempt to exaggerate their competence in order to meet the perceived expectations.

[–] ashenblood@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm sorry that happened to you.

However, your anecdotal experience is just that. I have been subject to exponentially more racist abuse from black individuals than from individuals of any other race. Does that indicate to you that we should be "pushing back" against black racists? Obviously not, because my personal experience is not enough to draw any conclusions about society as a whole.

In fact, you're condescending me right now. You're implying that your personal judgment supercedes my rational argument. I provide sources and construct an argument, and you respond "this is news to me" (condescending and dismissing my argument) and proceed to explain that what I'm saying can't possibly be true, because it contradicts your personal viewpoint.

[–] ashenblood@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

That's not my main argument, it's merely a supporting clause.

OP asserted that

white men will treat anyone of any other demographic as less than equals.

I countered that by pointing out that it's obvious that any human being tends to prefer people who they consider similar to themselves. That's my main argument.

And if that is true, then attempting to frame such behavior as particular to white men is just silly and unproductive.

I obviously can't definitively measure the amount of social stigma around white male prejudice, but I don't need to. I'm not saying that white men are definitely less biased than other demographics, I'm merely pointing out that it's a distinct possibility, even as you all indicate that they are the demographic most deserving of condemnation for such behavior.

Now, one could make the argument that even though white men may not be especially biased, the effects of their bias may have greater impacts on other demographics due to the disproportionate amount of power they collectively wield. I think that's a fair point, but it doesn't really hold any ethical implications, it's simply a description of a material reality.

[–] ashenblood@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (14 children)

This is a consistent and very unpleasant fact of the world that white men will treat anyone of any other demographic as less than equals.

Citation needed.

In all seriousness, I understand your point and respect you for trying to deconstruct the mechanics of privilege.

But I just factually disagree with your assertion. I would argue that every human being has an inherent preference for people that they perceive as similar to themselves in some way, and this can result in bias along racial or gender lines. However, this arguably applies less to white men than any other demographic, because such behavior is so consistently condemned and shamed when exhibited by white men.

In contrast, people of other demographics are less frequently made aware of their own biases, because calling it out has not been construed as some kind of ethical imperative, as it has with white men.

It's also well documented that women have a much stronger in-group bias compared to men.

In essence, women can be characterized as “If I am good and I am female, females are good,” whereas men can be characterized as “Even if I am good and I am male, men are not necessarily good.” This sex difference in cognitive balance suggests that a mechanism that promotes female preference in women does not similarly contribute to male preference for men.

https://rutgerssocialcognitionlab.weebly.com/uploads/1/3/9/7/13979590/rudmangoodwin2004jpsp.pdf

[–] ashenblood@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

In that case, I suggest you shut down the community. At this point the core userbase and mods have moved to another location and this community only serves to confuse noobs and casuals.

I don't blame you for not wanting to research the veracity of pedo claims, but this is within your control as admins. If you have a community that is unmoderated and frequently taking up admin time and resources, simply shut it down.

[–] ashenblood@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Uhhh... slaves didn't get paid at all.

Allowing people to immigrate into a developed country, make way more money than they would at home, get put up in company housing, and send the majority of the money back to their families seems like a pretty good deal for all parties.

[–] ashenblood@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It was Dessalines. He has strong personal feelings about anime and especially lolicon, which is why hosting the anime community on lemmy.ml is an unwise choice, imho

[–] ashenblood@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sounds like you just played a more limited array of sports. Football is honestly not easy without uniforms, but possible especially if 7v7 or something.

But playing ultimate Frisbee, capture the flag, etc without uniforms is essentially impossible. Remembering who is on your team isn't even the hard part. It's more because you need to make quick decisions and recognize who is open immediately.

So yeah... that's how uniforms work. I would be baffled if they weren't the norm.

Did y'all use uniforms in World War II? No wonder the Germans were able to slice through your defensive lines so easily, you couldn't tell who was on which team.

[–] ashenblood@sh.itjust.works 26 points 2 years ago (4 children)

declare on India

get bodied by UN coalition

max out at Saddam Hussein notoriety levels

not a World War, more of a Regional Shellacking

[–] ashenblood@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

That bot ain't right. I've seen it responding to itself in an infinite loop in the past couple days 😂

[–] ashenblood@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'll never return, regardless of what Reddit does, but I don't blame you for your position.

I'd just say don't give up yet, I think we have a pretty large chunk of people sitting on the sidelines temporarily, waiting to see if Lemmy actually becomes what it aspires to be.

Also I don't mean to be rude, but it would be nice if Tildes users just came to Lemmy and helped us build here. I'm sure many Tildes users use Lemmy anyways. Tildes is just way too small (like 10% the size of Lemmy) and even if it did take off, it would probably turn out the same way as reddit. But that's just like, my opinion, man.

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