Yeah honestly, if you're only looking at the campaigns that led to overthrow of the government or territorial liberation then it should be somewhat self evident that nonviolent campaigns have better outcomes. They lead to less death and less destruction of infrastructure which is desirable for whatever comes next. Unfortunately, that's not always an option for people seeking liberation.
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Haha speak for yourself. Understanding the underlying mechanics makes it obvious what comes next and I kind of wish we could just skip that part. 😅
It literally is how wars have been won. Strategy is not decided upon in a vacuum.
You need to read more news articles from the times then and not just modern accounts of the civil rights movement. The media definitely portrayed the demonstrations as violent and destructive even when most demonstrators were peaceful.
I just don’t understand how this makes Bernie’s statement inconsistent.
Bernie’s focus is the problem here. The anarchists and provocateurs who want to engage in property description don’t care what Bernie has to say. The vast majority of protestors who are peacefully demonstrating are not responsible for their actions. Even then there are many instances of peaceful demonstrators trying to intervene and stop property destruction and violence. “Peaceful protest” is a common chant at these events.
If you have familiarity with all of this, then you’ll recognize that Bernie is just being needlessly condescending to those who are already doing the best that they can. Nobody needs lessons on how or why peaceful protests can be effective. What we need is leaders who are focused on the obscene violence being perpetrated by law enforcement and the current administration.
If you want a better example of how to respond to the current situation you don’t have to look far. AOCs statement is much better.
It is 100% carrying water for the opposition to participate in this collective delusion that Dems for some reason need to answer for every teen who throws a rock rather than hold the Trump admin accountable for intentionally creating chaos and breaking the law to stoke violence. They are in charge.
Seriously. At this point the majority of violence being carried out against protesters in order to protect ICE is being done by local law enforcement. State and city level democrats are not resisting Trump. They’re just mad that he doesn’t realize that they’re on the same team.
The protests Bernie was part of were accused of being violent regardless of how Bernie and the majority of people protesting behaved. That’s the point. Hell if he resisted arrest in anyways today they might try to charge him with assaulting a police officer.
That doesn't matter when ICE isn't giving people their right to due process which they have regardless of their immigration status.
Yeah honestly. Instead of just suing the administration, why hasn't he given the national guard contravening orders to stand down? If Trump's orders are indeed illegal then that's seems to me like a perfectly reasonable thing to do.
Sure. The protests are confined to a very small part of downtown and honestly they aren't even that big. The administration and media is trying to turn them into something they aren't. Unless you're actively trying to attend a protest, I doubt you'll notice anything at all while you're there.
The man is a freak. I wouldn't be surprised if he's as depraved and sick as Epstein was.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/29/business/elon-musk-children-compound.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/31/business/jeffrey-epstein-eugenics.html
You only "own" a house as long as you can rely on the police to enforce your claim. The concept is the same. It's just in China they made a policy decision not to enforce landlords' claims in order to reduce inequality.
It really depends on how far both sides are willing to escalate.
Israel appears to be emboldened for a variety of reasons. Nobody is stopping their genocide. Hezbollah is on its back foot. Netanyahu sees political gain in a war with Iran. Trump is reckless enough to not reign Israel in.
However, Israel cannot wage all out war without the backing of the US. Iran knows this which is why I think their responses to past Israeli attacks have been fairly measured. These attacks are a serious escalation though and it’s hard to say how Iran may decide to respond.
If they seriously think the US is ready to back Israel in an all out war then we’re going to face consequences globally. Iran has the capacity to obliterate much of the middle east’s oil infrastructure, which the US is heavily invested in. That could cause energy prices to spike and create all kinds of downstream havoc for the global economy.