[-] cenarius871@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I dont support it i think it was crazy by Putin. But i still praise many things about the former Soviet Union and Maoist china and yugoslavia and cuba etc. . For example that everybody was garanteed a minimum income through the federal job guarantees and the low income inequality etc. .

[-] cenarius871@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 weeks ago

If thats the case i think thats stupid and i think many would call me a tankie.

[-] cenarius871@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I dont think most tankies would say Russia is today socialist. 30% of employees in Russia work for the state in 2016 compared to 70-90% in 1985. And the biggest predisessor parties of Putin´s party United Russia were hard supported by the CIA and the US(because the parties were right wing and for capitalism and free markets etc. .) to win the russian 1991 and 1996 election before they started to rig election results.

Edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_public_sector_size https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_Russian_presidential_election https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Russian_presidential_election https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/14o601y/oc_how_well_the_richest_top_1_have_been_doing_the/

[-] cenarius871@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Can culture get changed through policy? I think so. The soviet union was very heavily isolationist and still industrialized cause it was in their central plan to do it.

Edit: if you look at the export and import to gdp ratios https://www.reddit.com/user/nerbert123/comments/1czws2d/soviet_union_statistics/#lightbox

[-] cenarius871@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Life expectancy also rose like that in the entire eastern block: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Life_expectancy_in_Hungary.svg https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041400/life-expectancy-poland-all-time/ etc.

Edit: Why is this downvoted? Do you not believe the stats?

Edit2: If it is so easy why was India and Africa after WW2 still below the world avarage?

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[-] cenarius871@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 weeks ago

Well i included it cause i found it interesting and unexpected given that "Communism killed millions of people" is often said.

[-] cenarius871@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)
[-] cenarius871@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

It could be that the death rate was unchanged because child mortality has been drastically reduced through better healthcare. https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041870/russia-all-time-child-mortality-rate/

And there are dips for ukraine but also child mortality fell a lot in Ukraine. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Life_expectancy_in_Ukraine.jpg

Edit: mistyped

[-] cenarius871@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

But even with that disaster Mao still raised life expectancy more than the world average from 1955 to 1976(when he died).

[-] cenarius871@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Central planning mistakes produced too little food(cause they wanted to buy more machines to industrialize quicker) which were later corrected.

Edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Leap_Forward

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NE.GDI.TOTL.ZS?end=2021&locations=CN&most_recent_value_desc=true&start=1960&view=chart&year=2020

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