[-] chickenwing@lemmy.film 9 points 10 months ago

And who is wizened enough to censor the internet? You? AT&T? Free speech is a fundamental human right that the Nazis didn't respect at all. If you want to act like them go on ahead, but don't be upset if I call you brainwashed too.

[-] chickenwing@lemmy.film 16 points 10 months ago

That's because you and every other idiot zoomer has been brainwashed into thinking protecting free speech is racist or something. If you don't understand why megacorps and the government shouldn't be able to censor you then you shouldn't be able to use the Internet at all.

[-] chickenwing@lemmy.film 18 points 10 months ago

The only other franchise he was in was the Witcher. Both the Witcher and Superman failed due to bad writing not the acting.

[-] chickenwing@lemmy.film 21 points 10 months ago

Sounds like these "grassroots backers" work for Warner Brothers to me.

[-] chickenwing@lemmy.film 5 points 10 months ago

Sure things take time but look how quickly they moved on Star Wars and Marvel. They made a deal with Sony for Spider-Man and then he's immediately in Civil War. I just don't understand the hold up. Also I don't think Deadpool is going to bridge the gap between Marvel and Fox X-Men. I don't think Disney world use a R rated comedy for that. I think a lot of people expected Multiverse of madness to bring the X-Men in and when it didn't happen they were disappointed. Marvel seems to be running out of steam if I were them I'd shove in as many X-Men as I could.

[-] chickenwing@lemmy.film 5 points 10 months ago

I think Disney Plus is in a lot of trouble. It's costing Disney a lot of money and hurting their cable channels and box office returns. I wouldn't call it a failure yet but it's far from a success.

[-] chickenwing@lemmy.film 7 points 10 months ago

Perhaps but there has always been the Big 5 major studios. Right now there is Universal Pictures, Paramount Pictures, Warner Bros., Walt Disney Studios, and Sony Pictures. Used to Sony wouldn't be counted or they would say big 6 but there has normally been 5 major studios. One dies another takes it's place.

RKO and MGM used to be part of the big 5 back in the day now gone but replaced. I think the same will happen here. Someone will fill the gap. Apple is spending big money for Scorsese and Ridley Scott. Amazon and Netflix are also trying to be players. I don't think Disney made the dent in competition that they thought they were going to make.

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70 billion dollars and what really do they have to show for it?

The purchase gave them an insane amount of debt so they immediately laid off a lot of former fox employees and recently laid off 7000 employees to save them 5 billion.

They also haven't done much of anything with the Fox catalog.

Most of the new 20th century films were unceremoniously slapped onto Hulu streaming.

  • Hellraiser 2022
  • Prey
  • New Mutants
  • No Exit
  • Barbarian
  • Boston Strangler
  • Crater

And more were all put on streaming and forgotten. Some of these movies were pretty good and could have made some money in theaters. I really liked Barbarian myself and Prey got a ton of praise.

What exactly did they get that was worth 70 billion? Avatar? The Simpsons? They could have just licensed those for Disney+ and saved a ton of money. Most of Fox's properties don't fit Disney. What are they even going to do with Alien, Predator, and Planet of the Apes? If Prey is any indication they aren't interested in putting them in theaters.

Before someone says X-Men what the hell have they even done with them? Some lame cameos. I'll never forgive them for the quicksilver gag in Wandavision. They got beat bad by Fox in the who has the cooler quicksilver so they make him a dick joke. Great.

They aren't going to do anything with the X-Men anytime soon. The 3rd Deadpool movie seems to be the only thing even cooking and that seems to be more because Ryan Reynolds is pushing it. If you're an X-Men fan you must be disappointed. Remember when we had an X-Men movie about every year? Say goodbye to those and Alien, Predator, Planet of the Apes.

FX seems to be doing alright but all to adult for Disney so to Hulu it goes. Why did they make a big deal out of Disney+ anyway? Wouldn't it make more sense to have one app? Put it all on Hulu. Why are their two apps with very different interfaces for one company?

Now that Disney is losing money in streaming and with recent flops I think this deal needs to be scrutinized more. Blame Capitalism or streaming mania but I have to say even from a business standpoint it makes no sense at all.

What do you think? Was this the beginning of the end for Disney's box office dominance? A bad play to kill Netflix? Or is Disney planning something that will take years to bear fruit?

[-] chickenwing@lemmy.film 8 points 10 months ago

Very sad he was one of the best. The Exorcist is incredible. I still need to watch Sorcerer.

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I've met people from California who now live in Texas and are right leaning and typically they are very right wing. More so than your average Texan. Most older people in Texas don't like change and are Christian conservatives. The right wingers from California feel different to me. I'll use the term neo reactionary to describe them, but they are the no regulations, meritocracy, pro eugenics types. You can't use the old school stuff like "what would Jesus do" which would occasionally work on getting the most stubborn conservative Texan on a neo reactionary as they typically don't believe in God.

I'll be honest I've heard some of their ideas and they frighten me. They imagine a antidemocratic world controlled by AI and tech executives. It's very different from the conservative Texan ideas I'm used to seeing. The classic Texan conservative wants prayer in school and the freedom to not wear a seatbelt. They can be stubborn and annoying at times but I'm used to it and I think they mean well. I don't feel the same way about neo reactionaries.

[-] chickenwing@lemmy.film 5 points 11 months ago

I'm finding harder to even find 90m horror films to watch on Halloween. Used to be every horror film was 90m lol.

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Movies have been getting longer for a few years or so but they are especially long this year. Look at the biggest films this year and see how they are about 20-30min longer than they would be in the past.

  • The Flash - 2h 24m
  • Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny - 2h 34m
  • Oppenheimer - 3h
  • Barbie - 1h 54m
  • John Wick: Chapter 4 - 2h 49m
  • Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 - 2h 29m

And even crazier are the 2 parter movies.

  • Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse - 2h 16m
  • Mission: Impossible – Dead Reckoning Part One - 2h 43m
  • Dune 2 - reported way over 2h

A few years ago this was different.

  • Action films like Indiana Jones, Marvel movies, John Wick and Mission Impossible used to be about 2h - 2h 15m.
  • Movies closest to Barbie like Clueless and Legally Blonde were about 1h 30m.
  • Biopics like Oppenheimer were longer but not 3h. Lincoln was 2h 30m.
  • Animated films would be 1h 45m max.
  • Lynch's original Dune was almost 3h cut by the studio to 2h 15m.

I remember when Harry Potter Deathly Hallows got criticism for being a 2 parter. The Dark Knight Rises got push back from theaters saying it was too long and made it difficult to have a lot of showtimes. Now it feels like these long showtimes and 2 parters are the rule rather than the exception.

Do you prefer movies longer or do you think they are getting too bloated and need to be cut down?

Also what is causing this trend of long films? I think it's streaming and binging making people more comfortable watching TV for a long time. But I see people say that attention spans are getting shorter thanks to the internet so I don't really know.

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This will be the first Toho Godzilla since Shin Godzilla (2016).

[-] chickenwing@lemmy.film 5 points 11 months ago

I think this could technically fall under name, image, likeness rights. Your voice could count as likeness and can't be used without your concent. I know the big movie studios need to get permission from the family to do their creepy dead actor cameos like Disney did with Peter Cushing. I think this would be the same.

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For the last few years franchise movies like star wars, marvel, etc. made money regardless of quality. However now it seems like audiences are being choosier when it comes to these kinds of tentpole releases. I've seen some people online say that the movie/theater industry is losing people in general but I don't think that's the case.

Super Mario and spiderverse made a lot of money. And Oppenheimer, Barbie, and Dune seem to be tracking well. I think the problem is that people are getting sick of the same old stuff and need more than just a brand name to go to the theater. What do you you think?

[-] chickenwing@lemmy.film 21 points 1 year ago

I'm glad someone was dedicated enough to do this but frankly this is too much work for that website. Moving away from the huge social media companies will be healthier for the internet and they are nothing without users. Best they remember that.

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