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All Star Superman has a quite succinct rebuttal to Lex Luthor as a character:

"I could have made everyone see! I could have saved the world if it wasn't for you!"

"You could have saved the world years ago if it mattered to you, Luthor."

(I think the book is the superior version, but I do love that the movie adds a sincere "you're right" from Lex in this scene).

"Captain, it's just a model..."

I did think of one specific thing that the Borg are significantly better than the Empire at: time travel. Everyone and their mother in Trek does it, and the Borg do it while on the run in First Contact. Meanwhile, (spoilers for a show that ended 6 years ago) the Emperor's desire+inability to control a force-based time nexus is a subplot in Rebels to the point where he decides his best option is to try parleying with the heroes. So, if Vader became a persistent threat the Collective's best chance would be to zip into the past and kill/assimilate child Anakin./

All that said, any ideas as to how this might work really falls apart when you look at temporal mechanics across universes. Trek canonically has a fluid (though resilient) timeline, this was stated onscreen in SNW. What little we see in Rebels indicates that Star Wars has a single stable timeline (one character survives a duel in Season 2 this way), and you can argue that this squares with Force precognition (including most notably the clear and unambiguous visions courtesy of the Mortis Gods in TCW).

Definitely fair, the Borg are on the low end of scary as far as space zombies go and I'd say at that point we're kind of running up against the fact that the Force does what the plot needs.

Vader at the peak of his power is pretty crazy. IMO it'd take a lot of drones to overwhelm him in a direct confrontation, but a cube has drones in the tens of thousands, so that's at least in the realm of plausbility.

Most interesting cross-universe interaction is if the Force can be used to resist transporters, because spacing Vader is probably the best way to get rid of the threat. I think that's a moot point though since the borg can (and do) blow up their own ships to eliminate even minor threats (see: the Borg Queen blowing up a cube of 64k drones for a couple deviants in Unimatrix Zero). So, their best chance is to transwarp to the middle of nowhere and self destruct the cube he's on. If the ship's detonation doesn't take him out, just count on the cold equations of space to do the rest.

Conclusion: Darth Vader would pose a grave threat to any Borg facility he should choose to board, but the Collective is resilient enough to not really care about any damage he could do.

"Neither are the true Picard. Both are the true Picard."

Prodigy memes? Neat.

"One must imagine Ensign Kim happy..."

My mental justification is that the Tardigrades were either extinct at that point (which is stated to have happened at some point prior to the end of DISCO S3), or what few post-Message in a Bottle admirals might know about the classified project couldn't justify making them suffer-- because, y'know, that is a thing that happens with the spore drive.

Hell, even if it was an option, would Janeway go for it? We saw her get rightly pissed at the equinox crew for running their ship off space aliens' suffering. and I feel like the next-closest alternative known at the time (genemodding someone with Tardigrade DNA and also making them suffer through the jump) might also fly in the face of her highly principled stance.

This is incredibly stupid.

I laughed.

Loath as I am to defend Into Darkness, this is arbitrary skepticism and Voyager is by far a worse offender.

It's not explicitly said but the circumstances are much tighter: I'm pretty sure McCoy stuffs Kirk's corpse into a cryo tube almost immediately after he dies and the gang also needs to capture, not kill a raging genetically enhanced warlord to have a shot at it. The two subsequent references to the Kelvin timeline after this offers no circumstance under which this technology could reasonably be used but wasn't. If they somehow did manage to repurpose Khan's magic panacea blood there's no indication it would be more than an immediate revival drug--like something we see used in Lower Decks as a joke.