hawkwind

joined 1 year ago
[–] hawkwind@lemmy.management 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

LLM bots has make this approach much less effective though. I can just leave my bots for a few months or a year to get reputation, automate them in a way that they are completely indistinguishable from a natural looking 200 users, making my opinion carry 200x the weight. Mostly for free. A person with money could do so much more.

[–] hawkwind@lemmy.management 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Your right. You just asked what a "fake account" was though. I think it's generally accepted that if you create "alt" accounts for the sole purpose of vote manipulation, you're being a dick.

[–] hawkwind@lemmy.management 61 points 1 year ago (7 children)
  • Should we/let's defederate with X?
[–] hawkwind@lemmy.management 1 points 1 year ago

I just mean that the karma system ala Reddit did more than just keep track of it and display it afaik. The data is in the db but a fully done karma system it is not. I could be wrong.

[–] hawkwind@lemmy.management 8 points 1 year ago

And it’s only a matter of time until that detection can be evaded. The knife cuts both ways. Automation and the availability of internet resources makes this back and forth inevitable and unending. The devs, instance admins and users that coalesce to make the “Lemmy” have to be dedicated to that. Everyone else will just kind of fade away as edge cases or slow death.

[–] hawkwind@lemmy.management 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The data to build it is there. Ftfy

[–] hawkwind@lemmy.management 5 points 1 year ago

Agree. Farming karma is nothing compared to making a single individual polar-opinion APPEAR as though it is other’s (or most’s) polar-opinion. We know that other’s opinions are not our own, but they do influence our opinions. It’s pretty important that either 1) like numbers mean nothing, in which case hot/active/etc. are meaningless or 2) we work together to ensure trust in like numbers.

[–] hawkwind@lemmy.management 6 points 1 year ago (5 children)

In this context it would be an account with the sole purpose of boosting the visible popularity of a post or comment.

[–] hawkwind@lemmy.management 22 points 1 year ago

IMO, likes need to be handled with supreme prejudice by the Lemmy software. A lot of thought needs to go into this. There are so many cases where the software could reject a likely fake like that would have near zero chance of rejecting valid likes. Putting this policing on instance admins is a recipe for failure.

[–] hawkwind@lemmy.management 0 points 1 year ago

Come on, they’re just people too with common people problems. Cut them some slack.

[–] hawkwind@lemmy.management 2 points 1 year ago

You guys got potato chips?

[–] hawkwind@lemmy.management 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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