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Yarp just sitting with my ballot waiting for her to commit. its a shame really. the MIC may result in the end of american democracy.

Unfortunately, elections are a popularity contest, not a morality test. It doesn’t matter what’s right, it matters what enough voters in the right states approve of.

agreed, and shes losing; all I can do is try and help by telling her what will get mine and apparently other votes.

The difference is that your assumptions are based on pure unsupported fantasy, while mine are based on historical evidence.

the past does not predict the future. but it rhymes. and the past shows the democrats run to the right and lose. looks in harris' direction

thats, like, your opinion man. all your points are around assumptions about how others will act.

I've only made a single claim on how others will act and it was a group that literally said 'stop the arm shipments to gaza' and there are 100k of them in an important swing state.

Sure, hold your nose, and when Trump wins you can snuggle say you didn’t directly vote for him, it’s not your fault LGBT people are getting carted off to camps, it’s not your fault women are legally considered breeding stock, it’s not your fault Palestine is a sheet of glass, it’s not your fault we pulled aid from Ukraine and sent it to Israel. Harris should have done more to seduce you into supporting human rights, it’s her fault you helped the greater evil.

correct. you see its a popularity contest, and apparently shes not winning and doesn't know how to. a shame really. if only the DNC ran a real primary when faced with a historically disliked administration. well you lose some, you win some. but it is a shame and its a shame you wouldn't put in the effort for all those groups you're trying to place on my plate. my vote is here for the taking. its a shame she couldn't check a single box on my list. I hope she pulls it off but for some reason it seems like she wont.

Harris should have done more to seduce you into supporting human rights, it’s her fault you helped the greater evil.

its funny you think your giant list of minority groups who actually have rights and trump wont be able to take them away by himself is more important to me than the 40k people already murdered and million + put at risk by the biden admin inability to have a spine. its why he lost support (among a plethora of other issues, like union busting) and just slapping harris' name on the top of the ticket won't change that outcome. sorry but the deaths are the greater evil. I will not choose between the minority groups. you can compromise if you wish I won't.

Israel is an ally.

Yes, we call this 'enabling' and its bad. if my friend goes and murders someone in cold blood I don't go 'oh well they're my friend' I fucking turn them in so they can get the help they clearly need.

She can’t get those easy votes without losing votes from moderate Israel-supporters.

No one is asking her to not protect israel. but fun fact: they're not moderates if they're supporting a genocide.

Well then your actions are irrational because they do not help accomplish your goal, despite your fantasies to the contrary.

thats, like, your opinion man. all your points are around assumptions about how others will act. personally I only decide how I can act. and seems like others agree with me and not you since harris can't find votes.

Eh, she needs enough votes. She doesn’t need yours specifically. If she can’t get yours, she’ll shill to moderates to get theirs, because strategically that’s much smarter than alienating a large, reliable bloc in order to gain a portion of the much smaller, much less reliable bloc you represent.

you actually don't know that. and neither does she. shes just scared as are you. I'm about as reliable as they come for votes; I show up every year and vote for people who represent me. if there are none, I show up for the ballot initiatives and leave the candidates blank. Its hardly my fault the DNC didn't run a real primary to find the best candidate this year because we know harris wouldn't have won.

Done, like a year ago.

samesies, do it again, repeatedly this week. =) they weren't willing to do shit a year ago because they didn't need the votes. now is the time to give them permission.

This is pure nonsense. On multiple levels.

yes, pure nonesense.

not my fault harris is floundering for votes. I can't help that shes committed to a platform that has historically low approval and is unwilling to commit to anything not even a bar as low as 'not commiting genocide' shrug.

if she had a solid platform she wouldn't be floundering. I can't do anything about that except clearly broadcast my expectations to the democratic party. which i'm doing daily. you are of course free to do nothing. but harris needs votes to win and I'm letting her know how to get mine. balls in her court.

heres my fence, lets see if she can get over it!

smile magic mushrooms are a treatment for depression that was widely available and frequently used. no prescription needed and SSRIs which were invented in the 90s are the closest analog we have available today because of nixon. the lack of mental health infrastructure is pointless if you've banned the only effective treatment for 40 years.

but yes, also bad regan.

My conscience won’t allow me to sit aside while the fascist party wins

well clearly it will and so does harris' since shes unwilling to commit to not enabling a genocide. pretty low bar shes failing to step over to get some easy votes. no one has said she isn't allowed to defend israel if they're attacked. shes just needs to commit to enforcing the law on the books about supplying arms to countries commiting genocide.

And you're correct no one can compel me to vote rationally. the funny thing about acting rationally is that the definition of rationality is that it depends on the goal. My goal is to get harris to commit to upholding our laws on not selling to genocidal maniacs like bibi. Harris needs my vote (and others) to do so. just like she needs my vote to protect all those groups you mentioned, which if she was committing to a policy that endangered them I'd do the same thing.

first they came for the palestinians, but I was not a palestinian so I didn't speak out.... seem familiar?

so email your critters let them know you support a embargo on israel and that you want harris to make a commitment in the next week and if she does you have my vote and likely 40K minimum more in a swing state. worry about the zionists another day they'll be fine. all you need to do is give harris permission. go forth and do so, repeatedly daily for the next week.

They're all depressed. seriously we can again blame nixon for the drug war and the subsequent rise in depression in our culture. (hint: shrooms, go take them)

ah so few make this connection. =) 👋 nice to meet you.

have you done the leg work of letting your congress critters know you don't support biden or harris on israel and that we need to implement an arms embargo? if not gtfo. until then I will continue to advocate people vote with their conscience. because I have done the work. biden/harris are blinking we need to push harder before the end of the month. I'm literally sitting here with my ballot waiting for harris to make an announcement prior to voting.

Yes and central planning is inherently unstable and inefficient. So you're back to my original points that he doesn't know what hes talking about.

Again you dont understand the implications of his system because you dont even know what metrics to use to advocate for it. Personally any system that optimizes for gdp or manipulated approval ratings as a measure of a healthy and fluroishing society design has lost the thread and doesnt know how to live.

As i told you earlier you want to convince me tell what you want to accomplish with your government and then we can discuss the metrics youd use. But so far you've demonstrated either: you're absolutely clueless about how systems fail/get corrupted, what the metrics you're using actually measure, and how they translate into behavior of the people living under those systems.

Essentially you've demonstrated you want to live in an authoritarian dictatorship. Hard pass.

Sorry hit submit prematurely;) its all there now. And i dont need to read your drivel because your premises are faulty.

I dont need to put my hand in shit to know its shit. The smell was more than enough.

Edit: also you think you need numbers oi. Fun fact once you understand how systems work you dont need the measurements to know if they'll work. The measurements are just to prove the system works as intended.

First you need to identify what your goals are for the system. The fact your spouting gdp and manipulated approval rates were sufficient indicators that you have nfc what you're talking about or your goals are not compitable with mine for society.