Oh, that is cool!
Has anyone tried ranking well known games with those quantifications?
What produces the complexity?
I think I agree that abstracts more often have this property, but I don't think there is a perfect correlation..
Chess is an interesting example, to me it's rule complexity is kinda medium-high. It definitely does have emergent complexity, and though I have a vast respect for it as a game, it just kind of bores me, and I think its because the ratio of emergent complexity to rule complexity is low... I dunno, maybe I'm just being a brat..
Backgammon and checkers are even less interesting, for the same reasons.
An interesting kinda-counter example is Regicide.. If you play the full game, it's 100% themed, and you can feel that even when you play with a normal deck of cards. But it does seem to have some interesting emergent-feeling property. Even though it's really just a slightly more complex multiplayer solitaire..
Thank you. I think my sportsballphobia might get in the way a bit. Are the rules really that simple? It looks on the order of warhammer or MTG?
What do you mean by "abstracts"?
Hive and Tak are are high on that list, and absolutely match what I mean..
Tak is fucking amazing for what it is, and I love that (unlike go) it seems to have this property of unpredictableness (despite the perfect information aspect), which means that even though I've played maybe a hundred games, a newish player can beat me quite often, just because I missed one possible path. I also love the story behind it.
I'd be suuuper keen on something like that that is good for 3-6 players.
I mean.. In some ways maybe that is not worse. Perhaps there is some shame associated with working for ICE.
Perhaps the only valid use for glitter
The thing that I don't get about those people is, what do they think the "well regulated" part means?
What... Did it say? Who was it trying to convince?
Grateful for it every day
Hah, I posted "the sun" in a separate comment before I saw yours :D
Yes and no to which part? I'm not trying to claim abstracts are good...
I think that regicide is NOT abstract (not sure though), but still seems to have the property that I like..