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Truth! And, if my understanding of history and sources are correct, Russian citizenry had even less say in their government or precipitating invasion than the average American.

Russian elections are like, crazy rigged. I’m sure our president is jealous.

yes. class consciousness is the most effective defense in culture war. it doesn’t mean ignoring it, of course.

i would never and have never advocated for ignoring the material, social, or policy conditions that fall under the umbrella of “culture war.” and yet that’s something you made up and forced upon me with no evidence, argument, or logic. just emotions.

check out this thread because i am done feeding this emotional energy. https://lemmy.cafe/post/19968013/12353527 notice how the conversation exactly matches all of my positive care for people living under oppression and in no way reflects your made-up men of straw about “ignoring the culture war and trans people.”

and notice how other people in the thread are understanding, asking questions, and not calling names when there is confusion.

e; typo there was a random “your” in there my fault

It’s so sad. Voting age in the US is 18 for the record so even if we ignore the historic systemic voting barriers for older people and across generations, it’s also transparently malicious to blame teens, most of whom never voted once, for their deaths.

It excuses nothing.

Yes. :( Fortunately the mods and general vibe here are okay but Instagram and Reddit are rife with it. Twitter is… even worse.

Just wanted to put some love and acknowledgement out there in the face of that insanity. :)

Southerners are fully capable of making informed decisions, and at some point you just stop having sympathy for the ones who could choose to be better but don’t.

There’s another confusion! I don’t know where you got the idea that this post was about sympathy for bad people when explicitly it talks about good people in the post. Super important! This is about solidarity across class lines. I would never and have never denied this and all of my comments here reflect that.

An oppressed minority still means that there’s an oppressive majority who voted to hurt themselves.

Yup!

I’ll say it one more time: ignoring a culture war being fought against you doesn’t make it go away, even if it’s just a proxy for a class war.

I agree! I don’t see why you brought this up but I agree! Lol.

Perhaps what you misunderstand is the concept of intersectional disenfranchisement. If I am a Black woman, and my mother was a Black woman, and her mother was a Black woman, then statistically and historically in the U.S., only 1/3 of us had the opportunity to vote in our daughter’s best interest due to the compounded effects of anti-Black and anti-woman status quos (not to mention other factors like anti-poverty, anti-queerness, religious discrimination, migrant discrimination, abuse of the the felony system to make free labor, and many more). When I speak today, I carry not just my own voice, but the silenced ones of those who came before me, denied the right to shape the future they birthed.

And because of that generational silencing, my daughter and I live with the consequences — in the schools we attend, the care we receive, the safety we’re afforded, and the doors still closed to us. We did not vote for this.

You are right you didn’t say it doesn’t, nor would I ever shove words in your mouth like that.

What you did say is “[your examples showing an ongoing issue between before 1920-today] are from 60 years ago” blatantly false! 2025 is today. ;)

You act as though I railed against the notion of voter suppression

No I act as though, under a comment affirming the dignity of the oppressed despite their separation from democratic self-determination, you started chirping about how I’m ignoring trans people or something. That’s pretty disingenuous to me, sorry not sorry.

e:typos

i think some people interpret “full of” differently and that’s a fair gripe to have with this post

as i said in the body text, feel free to swap in “has a lot of” if that’s more familiar language to you :)

hence they couldn’t vote for the way things are

and still can’t. voter repression still happens. in 2025. said it before. you ignored it. brought it back up again. you called me an ass. said it a third time, and you called me bad faith.

i gave a timeline of problems (A B C) and you ignored the most recent, most relevant, date in the timeline (C) three times. three times you ignored C. just to be clear. my point is C. the current ongoing crisis is C. C is the issue i am concerned about in making this entire post. C is proof that the progress of A and B has not come to fruition.

thank you for your time.