@smileyhead
> But noone figured out how to prevent that in federated systems
You've basically got a choice been a centralised service where metadata can be limited but E2EE is mostly pointless (you have to trust the service operators' E2EE deployment), or a decentralised network where E2EE is reliable, but it's harder to limit metadata.
Which one is best depends on the situation/ threat model.
@deadsuperhero
> I’d really love to see a “modern” WhatsApp-like take on an XMPP messenger, but I haven’t found any
Have you looked at @snikket_im ?
@Rambi
> but how come your username says @null?
No idea. Maybe a bug in your app? Maybe something to do with the fact I'm posting from a Mastodon server rather than Lemmy server?
@theKalash
> Lemmy neads a feature where people can “merge” communities from different instances so it appears like a single one
I'm confused by this. I'll admit I haven't used Lemmy much yet, but I thought communities do exist across all servers? So if I join "c/fediverse" on any one server, and you join "c/fediverse" on any other server, we're joining the same community. Is that not how it works?
@itadakimasu
Plus, the Lemmy servers are part of a much larger network; the fediverse. Not just other forum apps like KBin either. Right now I'm replying to this from Mastodon.
I have an alt on a .nz Lemmy server, but haven't got into the habit of using it yet. So at least some of the perceived shrinkage *is* due to that, rather than any failure of the network. Also due to spam and troll accounts being purged.
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@itadakimasu
> there’s only 60k of us? And that’s a good thing?
A centralised platform is a numbers game. The money for upgrading servers for growth has to come from one company, and if the platform shrinks it gets harder to get a return on that spending.
It just doesn't matter as much in a federated network. The cost of growth is spread across many servers. Some of which will end up shutting down, for a range of reasons. But others have room for growth.
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@MyopicTopic
> very few people have an entire extended friend group looking to figure out what a decentralized federated Facebook would entail
Indeed. It's a real swiss army knife of a platform, hard to even spec out a replacement. I had a go at that here a few years ago:
I'm sure I wrote out a more developed summary of this as a blog post, but I can't find it right now.
@theory
> Is there a good fedi or p2p alternative to twitch?
#OwnCast was designed specifically for this:
#PeerTube also has livestreaming capabilities, as well as being able to host recordings of livestreams for future playback after they're over:
There's also #GreatApe, which is entering beta and looking for testers:
@DaisyLee
> What are the best fediverse alternative to the big sites on the web?
Which ones are the best is a matter of taste, but this page gives you an idea which of the corporate DataFarms the various fedi apps can be a replacement for:
https://joinfediverse.wiki/What_are_Fediverse_projects%3F/Fancy
@lackthought
> I was just looking at Matrix, are there community servers like on discord people can join? or is it all private rooms?
There are loads of public rooms on matrix, eg:
https://matrix.to/#/#fediverse-city:matrix.org
FYI what Discord calls a "server" is actually just a group of chat channels and their pool of members. The equivalent of a Discord "server" on matrix is a "Space". This blog post is a couple of years old out-of-date, but it gives you the general idea:
@Bicyclejohn
> my peers are too tiktok obsessed
What is it that attracts them to TikTok? The features and user experience, or the pool of people and content they can find there? Or something else?
@deadsuperhero
> the reference implementation everyone uses by default is known to be bloated and slow, and poor at scaling
This doesn't seem to stop the fediverse growing (*cough* Mastodon *cough*).
@Terevos