techno156

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[–] techno156@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (5 children)

There's also no centralised Lemmy site/index yet that centralises that information.

That's fine and all if you're looking for content on somewhere like lemmy.ml, or lemmy.world, but you might run into problems if you're trying to search for something that might be located on beehaw, or sh.it.just.works instead, which doesn't have the word "lemmy", and might get skipped.

You also have places like Kbin, which don't get captured in a search at all, both because they're not lemmy, and also because they don't contain the word lemmy, which doesn't help if you're trying to search something that you thought was on Lemmy, but is in fact on a Kbin magazine.

[–] techno156@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

He thinks we are. I never thought about it before. Maybe in the case of some Reddit subreddits and other forums, but I don't think so in general. I've got a lot great information from forums.

I agree that we're not past the days of forums. Part of what made forums and Reddit great was that you knew that you were interacting with multiple people, and that a lot of information was filtered through some form of consensus. If the advice given was wrong, you usually had additional replies saying it was incorrect, and pointing out what was wrong, or the OP adding more information if asked/incorrect.

You can't really do that as easily with blogs and things, both because it's usually written by one person with presumably little verification (who may have unclear credentials if you're not familiar with them, or that area of work), even before the rise of AI and auto-generated SEO blogs which say nothing useful with a lot of words.

From a usability standpoint, there is also something nice about a forum, since they're usually not that terribly infested with ads, or things like algorithms designed to push content and keep people on the platform. You can just come and go as you please, although necroposting is usually frowned upon. At most, you might have some sorting that keeps the posts in chronological/activity order, but that's about it.

[–] techno156@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There's something refreshing about an old forum, where you're not bombarded with advertisements and algorithms, it's just basic forum goodness, sorted according to activity.

It's part of what makes Tumblr still rather nice to use, since it's one of the few modern social media networks that doesn't default to trying to force you into it, or clutter anything and everything with ads (yet), in spite of the site's terrible coding.

[–] techno156@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You can usually get around that with the old compact interface. Clicking links is a bit glitchy after its "retirement" (Reddit "retired" it by stripping .compact from all links, but compact still tries to use them), however, it's still mostly usable, if you put .i at the end of the link.

https://old.reddit.com/r/creesch/comments/14fxzr4/so_long_and_thanks_for_all_the_fish/.i

[–] techno156@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Spez is going to get what he wants either way, really. He just wants third-party app activity gone from Reddit, and Apollo moving over to ActivtyPub is just more of the same, even if the app itself is around.

Personally, I think that dropping Apollo might make more sense. It was designed as a Reddit Reader, so instead of cramming new app functionality into it, it would make sense to just split it off into its own app.

A lot of ActivityPub/Lemmy/Kbin features are natively supported, so he wouldn't need to keep paying for things like Imgur API access, unlike with Reddit where third-party image hosting is the only way to do image hosting, without using the official app.

Plus, after the recent shenanigans from everything, he probably deserves a break, for a while, at least.

[–] techno156@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

If it wasn't for the amount being much higher than most other companies charge, and what it costs Reddit itself to do the same, and a 30-day timeframe with which to get around those changes on top of it, I think that they would have been much better received. The third-party app developers didn't any problems with paying for things like Imgur APIs, and would have happily paid up for Reddit's, if they had the time to implement it, and didn't have to deal with the exorbitant cost.

However, I do think that Spez made things much, much worse. If Reddit didn't make a discussion, and just put out the announcement, people would have shrugged, and moved on. His AMA, and everything else after was just throwing fuel onto the fire, which was further boosted by Reddit admins suddenly wading into the fray, something that they had not done previously, even rom the perspective of moderator tyranny. The previous response tended to always be "we're sorry to hear that, but you can just go and create your own community if you have an issue with them", unless the problem was bad enough it got press attention.

[–] techno156@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

If it's not already there, it might also be worth raising the issue on the lemmy-ui github, just so the developers can see it, and can add to the list of features to implement. If it's important enough, they can bump it up the list as needed.

[–] techno156@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Given how that's been going, and how that subreddit apparently got caught in the crossfire, it kind of makes you wonder what's going on behind the scenes at Reddit. With a different person revoking it ~~and apologising~~, it kind of seems like the admins aren't really communicating to each other, and that some are putting out fires that the others are lighting.

EDIT: No Apology, just an explanation.

[–] techno156@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago

I don't think so. The idea might be nice, but Peertube has neither the audience, nor the monetisation of platforms like YouTube. Moving to peertube just isn't a good business decision for that.

Video hosting is also expensive, especially since they would also have to deal with DMCA claims and all of that. YouTube wasn't really profitable, or even breaking even until rather recently, nearly a full decade after they started. It's not really economical to do video hosting quite like that.

Peertube might be good for casual use, but I also can't see any content creators using it. (Not unlike 2005 YouTube in that sense), and the lack of content creators also means a lack of audience (and through them, content) that might attract more users over. People are more likely to move over to something like Patreon or Twitch instead.

[–] techno156@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

I'm totally with you. I feel as lemmy develops, we'll start to get more QoL. I've been having the same issue with not being able to post comments on random posts, and I have my own self hosted instance. I think it has something to do with the instance the content is hosted on being overloaded? Not sure how the backend works, truly.

Going from an update, it seems to be due to Lemmy using websockets, which can break if you have multiple tabs open (which I tend to have when working with Lemmy). Recommendation for the time being (until they move off of websockets, which is coming in a future update), is to only have one Lemmy tab/window open, per instance at a time.

What would also be kinda neat, is if I could eventually transfer my instance over to a kbin instance. I quite like the idea of being able to track my thoughts and experiences via microblogging, and I'm not sure if I want to have a seperate mastodon account for that.

They're technically different software, so I don't think you can do a direct transfer, but you can interact with a Mastodon account from Lemmy (although Kbin segments it out a bit more nicely, with Mastodon-like posts being segmented off as "Microblogging", and Lemmy-like posts as "Threads"). It might be easier since you have no posts on your instance, but moving across is likely going to mean that you'll have to subscribe and make comments from the get-go again.

[–] techno156@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago

I'm not sure that the Jellyfin community is that big or active enough that that will be much of an issue at all. Looking at their sub, the highest rated posts are under 1k, so number of people active on the sub is probably somewhere between 100k - 1M.

Your average post maybe has about 10 - 20 people interacting with it at most. Expecting thousands seems... optimistic, especially when the forum numbers puts them at under 300 people.

[–] techno156@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

They already tried, given that the reason that they've held out for so long is because of one of those circumventions.

It's just that the EU is clamping down, and Apple is running out of time on that restriction, hence them moving over to USB-C coincidentally just before the EU would force their hand.

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